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2005-08-05 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Steve 2005-08-05 09:51|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 An additional problem is that U.S. forces are increasingly taking the fight into enemy territory (western Iraq),..

Taking it into true enemy territory like Syria or Iran would be ideal.

These guys are not only way out there in terms of philosophy and goals, but are willing to use murder and suicide in hopeless attempts to achieve their goals. You have to deal with them, if only to kill them.

And the faster this is done, the better.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-08-05 10:09|| 2005-08-05 10:09|| Front Page Top

#2 I call bullshit on some of this article's points, mainly that the Iranian and Syrian govts don't control the forces that are allowing the suicide bombers and Sunni war architects to operate out of their countries.

They know and are coordinating the allowance of these activities. They have much to gain from a populace of Shiia that are in fear of and at war with the Sunnis.

Civil war would benefit the Iranians in that their boyz in Iraq, the Badr Brigades aka the Red Guard, will then be needed to protect the populace from the Sunnis. Sure some Shiia die as a result of this, but that's a small price to pay for the increased loyalty to the Ayatollah that comes with a fear of the Sunnis. Imagine the Shiia Ayatollah's in charge of a Iran friendly Iraq, what a coup for the Iranians.

The article does make mention of, correctly I think , of the Iranaian moves to place more power in the hands of Ayatolla Sistani and his army, but its not without some coordination with the Al Q and Sunni militantss, as ludicrous as cooperation may seem between the traditional enemies. Politics make strange bedfellows.

A Shiia populace afraid of the Sunnis is a Shiia populace in need of Iranian leaning politicos and groups.

EP

Posted by ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding 2005-08-05 17:11|| 2005-08-05 17:11|| Front Page Top

#3 I seem to recall that, post-liberation, there was a massive flow of Iranian pilgrims to Shiite holy places in Iraq. The discussion at the time was that the Iraqi holy places outranked the Iranian holy places. Also, that the Iraqi ayatollas were more highly respected for their knowledge than their Iranian counterparts. I suspect this must concern Khameini, et al, because Sistani is speaking up in support of Iraqi democracy, to which the Iranian version can't compare. Not to mention that the Iranians could follow Sistani without giving up being good little Shiites, a real threat given the dissatisfaction of the Iranian masses.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-08-05 18:13|| 2005-08-05 18:13|| Front Page Top

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