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2005-07-31 Iraq-Jordan
Iraqi Insurgents Killed More Than 20 US Troops on Friday
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 08:12|| || Front Page|| [7 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 *Yawn*

This crap really needs its own category.
Posted by docob 2005-07-31 08:44||   2005-07-31 08:44|| Front Page Top

#2 Another source says - An Iraqi civilian was killed in a bomb blast early Saturday as a US Army patrol was passing through the Dourah suburb south of Baghdad, a police source said. The source said a roadside bomb went off this morning in Baghdad's southern suburb. The source, who declined to be identified, said no American troops were hurt in the incident.

IN WW II, 'resistance fighters' fought against the occupying enemy and tried to avoid killing their own people. The so-called Iraqi resistance stupes don't have any other real people on their side, so they can kill anybody, and claim a victory.
Posted by Bobby 2005-07-31 09:03||   2005-07-31 09:03|| Front Page Top

#3 Iraqi Insurgents

Actual Iraqis or foreign imports from countries that shall not be mentioned?
Posted by Unereling Omaising6470 2005-07-31 09:16||   2005-07-31 09:16|| Front Page Top

#4 Hey the days propaganda how cute .
Posted by djohn66 2005-07-31 09:43||   2005-07-31 09:43|| Front Page Top

#5 When's today's spew? Will it be before Noon? I'd hate to miss a fine eruption, but there's a race on.
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-31 09:47||   2005-07-31 09:47|| Front Page Top

#6 Sink Trap.
Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-07-31 09:59||   2005-07-31 09:59|| Front Page Top

#7 Regarding Mike Sylwester, Is sucking scorn an avocation or a profession.

I wonder.
Posted by Red Dog 2005-07-31 10:45||   2005-07-31 10:45|| Front Page Top

#8 You people just don't understand the nuances of Lord Mike-Mike
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-31 10:49||   2005-07-31 10:49|| Front Page Top

#9 I have a theory about some of Mikey's JU posts, but I still don't know why he posts this crap. Anyone who's studied history -- and it's getting clearer and clearer Mikey hasn't -- knows these kind of claims are invariably false. The Japanese claimed to have sunk some of our carriers three or four times, by name in some instances.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-07-31 11:45|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-07-31 11:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Mikey al Sylwester Troll loves the thought of spilled American blood, even if it's fiction -- it vindicates his position that Kofi and Kojo should rule the world. Who can tell me that he's not an attention whore? He's Aris without the intelligence. Why is he not banned?
Posted by Neutron Tom 2005-07-31 13:45||   2005-07-31 13:45|| Front Page Top

#11 This crap really needs its own category.

As in: "Islamist Bullshit"?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-07-31 13:48||   2005-07-31 13:48|| Front Page Top

#12 It has a category - Fifth Column
Posted by Bobby 2005-07-31 14:02||   2005-07-31 14:02|| Front Page Top

#13 Jihad Unspun publicizes that the resistance is whacking GI's yet the Baghdad morgue is overflowing with Iraqi civilian victims.
Posted by Super Hose 2005-07-31 14:13||   2005-07-31 14:13|| Front Page Top

#14 Mike Sly is what this is all about.
BTW - The goat fucker is not banned is he? (Airheadious Aris)
Posted by Long Hair Republican">Long Hair Republican  2005-07-31 14:19||   2005-07-31 14:19|| Front Page Top

#15 You expect logic to influence Mikey?

Evidence so far isn't very supportive of that prediction ....
Posted by anon ex-lib 2005-07-31 14:20||   2005-07-31 14:20|| Front Page Top

#16 I thought that this was the magazine of record...

What is all this Jihad Unspun nonsense?

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Posted by BigEd 2005-07-31 15:06||   2005-07-31 15:06|| Front Page Top

#17 Do not worry Lord Mike-Mike is a good American Citizen under pressure from unamed outside sources and all will be made clear.
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-31 16:23||   2005-07-31 16:23|| Front Page Top

#18 I post articles that I think other people will find to be interesting. I myself am still amazed that these absurd reports of US casualties are reported every day. I think this self-delusion among many Moslem radicals is a significant factor in their stubborn determination to keep fighting in Iraq.

Sampling these articles periodically shows that the phenomenon continues.

I have posted hundreds of article on Rantburg. I don't fisk any of them beyond identifying the source. I assume that the average Rantburg reader can understand and evaluate them about as well as I can. I don't feel that I have to instruct other Rantburgers what opinions I or they should have about the articles. If I want to exercise my sense of humor, I so so in my comments.

That's my own, consistent attitude. Other posters fisk their articles heavily. That's their preference, and I have never commented about it.

Although I did not start posting these absurd casualty reports in order to offend other Rantburgers, I indeed have been amused to see that a few people pretend to be seriourly offended by the articles. In general, these same people are constantly rude and offensive themselves, and so I don't take their supposed sensitivities seriously.

These same people criticize me likewise when I post articles from The New York Times, The Washington Post and the rest of the so-called "mainstream media."

This outrage about posting Jihad Unspun articles is funny to me for the same reason that liberal "political correct" outrage is funny. In both cases some people are trying to use guilt-tripping and prissiness as methods to try to limit the free distribution and discussion of information. The idea here is that nobody should post Jihad Unspun articles only if the poster very carefully and explicitly explains to all the readers how they must perceive and understand the articles in a "politically correct" manner. I consider that attitude to be just another ludicrous form of "political correctness."
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 17:05||   2005-07-31 17:05|| Front Page Top

#19 Sink trap.
Posted by Sock Puppet 0’ Doom 2005-07-31 17:24||   2005-07-31 17:24|| Front Page Top

#20 "...a few people pretend to be seriously offended by the articles... These same people criticize me likewise when I post articles from The New York Times, The Washington Post..."
We want news and entertainment, not your incessant irritating fictions and delusions.
Posted by Neutron Tom 2005-07-31 17:26||   2005-07-31 17:26|| Front Page Top

#21 Like you, Neutron Tom, I am interested in discussing the subjects that are Rantburg's focus. I think we agree on much more than we disagree on. It's more productive and enjoyable if we discuss our disagreements civilly. If, however, you reflexively charactize all my opinions as fictions and delusions, then discussion between us is useless, and I suggest that we ignore each other.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 17:37||   2005-07-31 17:37|| Front Page Top

#22 It's hard to ignore regular doses of Jihad Unspun. Are you trying to be the next Jane Fonda?
Posted by Neutron Tom 2005-07-31 17:39||   2005-07-31 17:39|| Front Page Top

#23 I don't post Jihad Unspun articles because I agree with them. I post them because I think they will interest other people. I think also that these casualty articles are funny.

I think you understand all that. So do practially all of the other people who read Rantburg.

Instead of trying to attack and demonize me personally at every opportunity, you could discuss and debate real issues with me.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 18:02||   2005-07-31 18:02|| Front Page Top

#24 I myself am still amazed that these absurd reports of US casualties are reported every day. I think this self-delusion among many Moslem radicals is a significant factor in their stubborn determination to keep fighting in Iraq.

The rest of us have been aware of this phenemona for years, having bothered to read beyond the basic school requirements of history. I think I've pointed out before that the Japanese claimed to have sunk American carriers multiple times, often naming the specific carrier with each claim!

In other words, that the jihadis claim to be killing Americans in droves, and keep making those claims, is about as interesting as drying paint, without any interesting side effects from fumes. That's what annoys me about these idiotic kill count articles -- nothing here to learn, no new information, nothing to tell us about the degree of threat or how to deal with it.

Nice of you to finally explain your reasoning, though. Now we can explain why it's invalid.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-07-31 18:06|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-07-31 18:06|| Front Page Top

#25 I think also that these casualty articles are funny.

Is that why you highlight the numbers of supposed American dead?

That's a laugh-riot, let me tell you.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-07-31 18:07|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-07-31 18:07|| Front Page Top

#26 Re #24 (Robert Crawford): is about as interesting as drying paint

Not every article is interesting to every reader here. It isn't a moral issue that I'm interested and you're not. There's a lot of articles here that don't interest me, and I simply ignore them.

I highlight the numbers simply to show the count, and the count is the entire point.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 18:12||   2005-07-31 18:12|| Front Page Top

#27 I highlight the numbers simply to show the count, and the count is the entire point.

I think we all understood months ago that the jihadis lie about their degree of success, everywhere.

There's no argument over that point, so why keep beating that dead horse?
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-07-31 18:16|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-07-31 18:16|| Front Page Top

#28 There's no argument over that point, so why keep beating that dead horse?

Because this absurd reporting of casualties does continue day after day, week after week. I post an article like this once in a while to show that it indeed does continue and continue.

You seem to take these articles much, much more seriously than I myself do.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 18:19||   2005-07-31 18:19|| Front Page Top

#29 Re #10 (Neutron Tom) He's Aris without the intelligence. Why is he not banned?

Aris was very foul and abusive. I am sweetness and light personified.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 18:22||   2005-07-31 18:22|| Front Page Top

#30 sounds to me like you are Aris.
Posted by 2b 2005-07-31 18:27||   2005-07-31 18:27|| Front Page Top

#31 
Because this absurd reporting of casualties does continue day after day, week after week. I post an article like this once in a while to show that it indeed does continue and continue.

That's like occasionally posting that the sun comes up every morning.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2005-07-31 18:52|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2005-07-31 18:52|| Front Page Top

#32 An observation:

Mike, I don't see you seriously trying to discuss anything. It would be helpful if you made some observations, pro or con, about the articles you post. It's all well and good to say you put them out as examples, but by refusing to comment one way or the other you certainly leave the impression that you intend to provoke.

And other commenters, we've had a bunch of knockdown dragouts later. Many of us have gotten hooked into them, myself included. Can we please try to make Fred's bandwidth of some use beyond WWF bouts?

Okay, that sounded grouchy. Please excuse the grouch and turn this into a useful thread.
Posted by rkb 2005-07-31 18:56||   2005-07-31 18:56|| Front Page Top

#33 Re #30 (2b): sounds to me like you are Aris.

No, Aris was banned for being foul and abusive. I am here, so by definition I am not banned and I am not foul and abusive. It's simple logic.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 18:56||   2005-07-31 18:56|| Front Page Top

#34 BIG MODERATOR SIGH

If we can't make this useful, maybe I should just delete the whole thing?????

Life's too short, people.
Posted by rkb 2005-07-31 18:58||   2005-07-31 18:58|| Front Page Top

#35 No one MAKES anybody come here, rkb! Let the children play! Just so long as they don't hurt themselves.....
Posted by Bobby 2005-07-31 19:02||   2005-07-31 19:02|| Front Page Top

#36 At some point this sort of repetitive annoyance both degrades Rantburg for others. I've had backchannel complaints by people who have been longtime, USEFUL Rantburg commenters and article submitters. Some of them are getting fed up.

It also uses up Fred's bandwidth and I haven't heard that people are kicking in lots of $$ to help pay for it.
Posted by rkb 2005-07-31 19:04||   2005-07-31 19:04|| Front Page Top

#37 Re #32 (rkb): I don't see you seriously trying to discuss anything. It would be helpful if you made some observations, pro or con, .... you certainly leave the impression that you intend to provoke.

Recently I was involved in long discussions about 1) whether Joseph Wilson ever claimed he was sent to Niger by Cheney and 2) whether extraordinary interrogation methods at Gitmo led to the arrest of KSM. In both of those discussions I provided many facts and links to support my arguments.

If you think back, you will remember that I have discussed many, many subjects in that manner.

Do you hold other posters to the same standard? Do other posters have to add their own observations, pro and con, to every post to satisfy you?

Also, do you hold other people here to the same standard about provoking other Rantburgers? Do you not notice that several people here provoke constantly? How often do you remark about that with regard to other people?

I mean, except for the case of Aris. We all agree he was too foul and abusive. But he's banned. Is there anyone else, still here, who you think might be too provocative?
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 19:06||   2005-07-31 19:06|| Front Page Top

#38 Mike, I'm not going to get into a game with you on this.

You regularly choose to post articles that are both repetitive and provocative. You claim they are interesting and informative, but many feel they aren't -- and you do not explain in what way you think they add to our understanding of events.

What I say to other posters - including off-line - is a separate matter.

Are you determined to step into the Aris role? Because that's the impression you're giving a lot of people, including some who have defended you up to this point.
Posted by rkb 2005-07-31 19:10||   2005-07-31 19:10|| Front Page Top

#39 I like to fellate myself. Because I like it, other people like it too. Simple logic. Because other people like it, I'll keep posting articles about me licking myself. If anyone objects, they're wrong. Because someone else out there is right, even if they don't speak up in support of me licking myself.
Remember: Kofi can't be proven guilty until someone proves him innocent! It's LOGIC, I tell you!
Posted by sylvester the cat 2005-07-31 19:10||   2005-07-31 19:10|| Front Page Top

#40 rkb, do you have any opinions about #39?
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 19:12||   2005-07-31 19:12|| Front Page Top

#41 Yes. I think both parties are wasting my time reading this stuff.

Fred can defend his bandwidth further if he choses. And you all can just go on doing stupid troll tricks with one another in the meanwhile.
Posted by rkb 2005-07-31 19:14||   2005-07-31 19:14|| Front Page Top

#42 Re #36 (rkb): I've had backchannel complaints by people who have been longtime, USEFUL Rantburg commenters and article submitters. Some of them are getting fed up. It also uses up Fred's bandwidth and I haven't heard that people are kicking in lots of $$ to help pay for it.

Did someone threaten to stop donating?
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 19:21||   2005-07-31 19:21|| Front Page Top

#43 (More information on earlier comment, #42.)

Now that I think about it some more, I wonder if someone threatened to withhold donations in order to get Aris banned.

At first I did agree that Aris was foul and abusive, but, but .... I really don't remember him that way.

Maybe the money threat is a better explanation of his being banned.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2005-07-31 19:44||   2005-07-31 19:44|| Front Page Top

#44 Did someone threaten to stop donating?

No.
Posted by rkb 2005-07-31 19:50||   2005-07-31 19:50|| Front Page Top

#45 If I remember correctly, Aris got banned and I chipped in. Aris came back, and I still chipped in.
Last I knew Aris had joined the army and was unable to post. Or did he get banned again? Somebody help me out here; do I need to chip in again?
Posted by asedwich">asedwich  2005-07-31 19:55||   2005-07-31 19:55|| Front Page Top

#46 Aris was never banned he left on his own volition. Something Lord Mike-Mike can't do.
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-31 20:42||   2005-07-31 20:42|| Front Page Top

#47 Ah ha. Thanks, Ship---that explains it all. Wouldn't have thought Aris had it in him.
Posted by asedwich">asedwich  2005-07-31 20:55||   2005-07-31 20:55|| Front Page Top

#48  Jihad Unspun


Judge a tree by the fruit it bears, Lordy ha ha is low hanging stink fruit.
Posted by Red Dog 2005-07-31 21:04||   2005-07-31 21:04|| Front Page Top

#49 Aris was banned, not for his opinions, but for the way he expressed them.

I'm with Robin. I remind you that the primary purpose of Rantburg is to keep up with the ins and outs of the war on terror. Occasional looks at what Jihad Unspun is posting are fine, though lately they've been pretty repetitive, just funneling propaganda pieces from the bad guys. Overkill is another matter, and provoking screechfests is another matter still. I find the claims tedious and tend to ignore the postings.

Rantburg's subject matter's too important for flame wars and ad hominem attacks. I'd much rather see postings that have information on actual enemy operations, organizational structure, arrests, captures, and that sort of thing.
Posted by Fred 2005-07-31 21:33||   2005-07-31 21:33|| Front Page Top

#50 I'd like to add my voice to Fred and Robin. Rantburg is for hard news, information, and analysis first...and for ranting and snarking a distant second. Please keep that in mind as you read and post.
Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious  2005-07-31 22:15||   2005-07-31 22:15|| Front Page Top

#51 "a distant second"

You sure about that, Em?

Well, then, that's a wrap.
Posted by .com 2005-07-31 22:43||   2005-07-31 22:43|| Front Page Top

#52 FAir 'enuf.... But ima got dibs on one last good lick before the roolover...
Posted by Shipman 2005-07-31 22:47||   2005-07-31 22:47|| Front Page Top

#53 #29: Re #10 (Neutron Tom) He's Aris without the intelligence. Why is he not banned?

Aris was very foul and abusive. I am sweetness and light personified

No, Aris was banned for being foul and abusive. I am here, so by definition I am not banned and I am not foul and abusive. It's simple logic.

are you sure this isn't Aris???? I'd be willing to wager that these particular comments are Aris.
Posted by 2b 2005-07-31 22:56||   2005-07-31 22:56|| Front Page Top

#54 Okedoke,
Ima proud RB pfc, and I will zip it, a day at a time.
Posted by Red Dog 2005-07-31 23:59||   2005-07-31 23:59|| Front Page Top

#55 I just gave on the account of Mike Sly.
To have such banter is great. Mike supplied a protein today. Get over it. Enjoy your new thought process and turn the anger into picking your targets.
Long distance High Five Mike Sly!!

Airheadious Aris is banned...bummer...I liked it when I called him a goat fucker and then would read his gibberish response


BTW - is it not the time to drop the PC bullshit and to start labeling this form of humanity in a term we can all agree upon hating like we did with the Jap and the Nazi's or did I just offend some of you? To fucking bad!!

The camel fuckers and the Sand NIg...almost..that want to turn your woman into a burke wearing robot need to die and die now.

Search and find your local mosque. Now you have your target. 1 American dies means 1000 Muslims die. It will be easier on your conscience if you think that way, as you pull the trigger.

They don't assimilate then annihilate.

I think General George Washington would feel the same way don't you?
Posted by Long Hair Republican">Long Hair Republican  2005-07-31 23:59||   2005-07-31 23:59|| Front Page Top

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