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2005-07-23 Down Under

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-07-23 01:36|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Sheik Omran appears to be the head Wahabi in Australia, and has a lot of unpleasant acquantinces. Hopefully it won't take an attack in Sydney before he is dealt with.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-07-23 01:54|| 2005-07-23 01:54|| Front Page Top

#2 Since Australia seems to be very similar to the US, i.e. a hardcore idiotarian press with a public Kool Aid following below majority, and has a real leader like Howard (major kudos to the man), I have real confidence that they are watching the London events very closely - and none of the lessons currently being learned will be lost on them.

I figure the UK will join the Dutch and begin to grab a clue about their suicidal level of multi-culti foolishness, often mischaracterized as "tolerance" - and it will be a tipping point for those Western countries which are still trying to ride the razor blade. Once a couple of the biggies "get it" and start openly deporting or jailing the imams and their followers in self-defense, others will follow suit. No one seems to want to be the first - the multi-culti "club" is very intolerant of splitters, apparently. Choosing between the club and public safety / survival should be easy enough - but we'll see. BTW, I don't have any respect for the Chirac regime's public symp mouthings vs their tougher non-public actions - it needs to be open and obvious policy or it will have no useful deterrent effect. Just more Chirac duplicity and disingenuous self-interest.

I think the Ozzies will get it early and apply it often. Will they get hit at home? Yeah, probably.

Posted by .com 2005-07-23 03:28|| 2005-07-23 03:28|| Front Page Top

#3 John Howard has been in London the last few days with Tony Blair during all the latest violence, he was also in Washington DC on 9/11, so he has learned all the lessons he needs to, it's just a matter of action.

In Australia any Isamist terror attack is likely to involve Lebanese, who are the same success story that the Paks have been in England, the Algerians in France, the Moroccans in Holland etc.

I'd guess we are about 10 years behind those countries when it comes to Jihadi threats, but the warning signs are there, with Australian Muslims having high unemployment levels, poor education, high birth rate and making up gangs that dominate parts of Sydney.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-07-23 04:20|| 2005-07-23 04:20|| Front Page Top

#4 trying to ride the razor blade

Now that is an uncomfortable image!

Posted by trailing wife 2005-07-23 06:24|| 2005-07-23 06:24|| Front Page Top

#5 John Howard has been in London the last few days with Tony Blair during all the latest violence, he was also in Washington DC on 9/11 ....

Cue next Islamo-nutcase conspiracy theory in 5 ... 4 ... 3 ....

Posted by AzCat 2005-07-23 07:11|| 2005-07-23 07:11|| Front Page Top

#6 American cleric is really a stretch. How about terrorist? Why is taxpayer money being wasted on this prick?

Posted by John Q. Citizen 2005-07-23 07:55|| 2005-07-23 07:55|| Front Page Top

#7 Speaking as an immigrant to Australia and someone who most of the people I socialize with are non-white immigrants or married to same, then most immigrants don't want multi-culti as .com put it. They want their kids to be real Aussies. The problem is with the usual suspects, professional leftists, the media and the immigrants who don't want to assimilate.

I'll tell you a story. The best know and best host of a current affairs program here (who incidentally the Aboriginals I used to work with insisted was one of them) had a piece featuring a professor who was anti African and Asian immigration. The guy was obviously selected as someone who would portray the issue in the worst light. Frankly the guy was an idiot and most here could put up a better argument. Nonetheless, the phone poll afterwards had 85% supporting his position. My point is that Australia is still a relatively homogenous society, and when and if the shit hits the fan most immigrants will side with the majority and despite the media hype most Australians (certainly all that I know) will side with the immigrants who want to be Aussies. The endgame is, those who don't will be seperated out somehow and likely deported or otherwise isolated.

Posted by phil_b 2005-07-23 08:05|| 2005-07-23 08:05|| Front Page Top

#8 Phil, do you think that is true for Sydney and Melbourne? I got a much different feeling there, more Euro multi-culti, than in Adelaide, Brisbane or Perth.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-07-23 08:18|| 2005-07-23 08:18|| Front Page Top

#9 Mrs D, perceptive. I've been in Melbourne recently, but not Sydney. My personal opinion is that the centre of gravity in Oz politics is shifting away from Sydney and Melbourne and towards Perth and Brisbane. The perception with considerable justification is that we make the money and they spend it.

Posted by phil_b 2005-07-23 08:34|| 2005-07-23 08:34|| Front Page Top

#10 "Australian Muslims . . . making up gangs that dominate parts of Sydney." Could you explain "dominate?" and what they do, actually? It would be really helpful.

Also did not understand "the perception with considerable justification is that we make the money and they spend it." Thanks phil_b.

Posted by ex-lib 2005-07-23 16:12|| 2005-07-23 16:12|| Front Page Top

#11 And WHICH specific parts of Sydney?

Posted by ex-lib 2005-07-23 16:12|| 2005-07-23 16:12|| Front Page Top

#12 Could you explain "dominate?" and what they do, actually? It would be really helpful.

Lebanese gangs control much of the organised crime in Sydney, from car stealing racquets to extortion to drugs. The only main competition comes from South East Asian gangs, who prey mostly on their own community than the community at large.

They mainly operate in South Western Sydney, and certain streets are no go zones for police unless they come in force.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2005-07-23 19:54|| 2005-07-23 19:54|| Front Page Top

#13 when are the crackers gonna enforce their rule, dammit

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