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2005-06-21 Fifth Column

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Posted by Bobby 2005-06-21 07:46|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Censure would be a start. Expulsion is what we need. Does the Senate deserve our respect?

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-06-21 09:01|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-06-21 09:01|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm sorry to say that Durbin is one of my senators. He's a leftist from way back and gets even more so the higher he goes (#2 dumocrat in Senate now). I don't agree with the censure though. He should just be tossed out on his ass by the voters.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2005-06-21 09:19|| 2005-06-21 09:19|| Front Page Top

#3 Censure would be a start. Expulsion is what we need.

Screw that -- exile him. Let him live in Paris for the rest of his life.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-06-21 09:28|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-06-21 09:28|| Front Page Top

#4 I find it ironic that the Durbin defenders wouldnât waste the salt in their urine to extinguish the smoldering bones of Ashcroft yet are all too willing to accept a single unsubstantiated memo from an unnamed FBI agent as proof of torture.

Posted by DepotGuy 2005-06-21 09:47|| 2005-06-21 09:47|| Front Page Top

#5 Make sure his words are recorded, then at the apprpriate time, play them back. Play them back loudly, and often.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-06-21 10:03|| 2005-06-21 10:03|| Front Page Top

#6 He just apologized, on the floor of the Senate. Tears in his eyes! I think he's really sorry - that the vast, right-wing conspricy descended on him like a ton of bricks, that is.

Then some dem said the Pubs played it up to divert attention from the war. So, Dicky fell into Karl Rove's trap! Maybe we oughta elect Karl president!

Posted by Shavith Thaing5807 2005-06-21 18:05|| 2005-06-21 18:05|| Front Page Top

#7 Hugh Hewitt played a tape of the "apology." It wasn't much of an apology; I'd rate it about as lame as his first non-apology apology. Still, I wonder what the DUniks and Kosroaches had to say about it.

Posted by Mike 2005-06-21 18:37|| 2005-06-21 18:37|| Front Page Top

#8 He didn't apologize acording to the story at Drudge. He meant no disrespect to our fine soldiers, he regreted his poor word selection, but no I was wrong, I made a mistake, I apologize. Keep him right where he is. I hope when he loses his next election it is the one that puts the Republicans at 60 in the Senate.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-06-21 18:38|| 2005-06-21 18:38|| Front Page Top

#9 But I saw it, and he had tears in his eyes!

ST 5897 nee Bobby

Posted by Bobby 2005-06-21 18:41|| 2005-06-21 18:41|| Front Page Top

#10 I thought it was unacceptable, but then I read another:

"A poor choice of words conveyed to some the impression that I embraced the discarded policies of the past," Lott said. "Nothing could be further from the truth, and I apologize to anyone who was offended by my statement."

Now Durbin should resign his post and spend a couple of weeks apologizing again and again at military posts and to veterans groups.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-06-21 20:38|| 2005-06-21 20:38|| Front Page Top

#11 I will mail this to the Senator from Illinois tomorrow.

Dear Senator Durbin:

I grew up in Illinois, and can remember Everett Dirksen and Adlai Stevenson as credits to the State. On the other hand, your recent remarks comparing Guantanamo to "Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime â Pol Pot or others" is the most outrageous statement I have ever heard. I also read that you were carefully explaining how you were not apologizing, but then said, "I sincerely regret if what I said caused anyone to misunderstand my true feelings: our soldiers around the world and their families at home deserve our respect, admiration and total support." I believe the "gulag" and "support" statements are completely incompatible.

Your words, Senator, were trumpeted on the front page of the Al Jazerra website as evidence we were losing our will to fight in Iraq. Maybe thatâs not what you said, or meant to say, but thatâs how our enemies have read it, and it will encourage the Iraqi insurgents and Taliban to persevere, to hope and pray the Vietnam analogy finally comes to pass, and to kill more and more of those same people who you say "deserve our respect, admiration and total support." You do not support them, Senator; you use them as a political tool for your own political advantage.

I agree that some of the treatments described in the FBI memo are harsh, even humiliating, but I do not consider them torture, nor would I put them in the same category as the insurgents, with their batteries, wire, clubs, knives, and guns. But to compare our treatment of the detainees with real experts in murder and torture is unbelievable. I am sure the detainees are much better treated than some of our own men were in Germany and Japan during the war, and better treated than most of our men in the Vietnam War. Where does the Bataan Death March rank with the Gulag and Guantanamo, Senator? While we have lost over 1,700 service personnel in Iraq, thatâs just over 55% of the innocent civilian lives lost in the attacks of 9/11.

I understand your statements were made for political purposes, Senator, but I believe your statements will cost American lives. My son served six months in Iraq, returning in March. His biggest complaint while he was there was the hurtful words of politicians, even more troubling than land mines and IEDâs. I donât vote in Illinois, Senator, but I have family and friends that do, and I will remind them of your statements when you run for re-election. Weâll see if they believe your public statements or my sonâs (and my) point of view.

Posted by Bobby 2005-06-21 21:31|| 2005-06-21 21:31|| Front Page Top

#12 Excellent, Bobby! *applause*

Posted by .com 2005-06-21 21:35|| 2005-06-21 21:35|| Front Page Top

#13 "My son served six months in Iraq, returning in March. His biggest complaint while he was there was the hurtful words of politicians, even more troubling than land mines and IEDâs."

Same thing from my son while he was over there. Makes me wonder: how many of these kids are going to come back here and vote Democrat in the next election? Or any other election for the rest of their lives?

Good letter. Send it.

Posted by Dave D. 2005-06-21 21:45|| 2005-06-21 21:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Thanks, folks....it's already got a stamp on it!

Posted by Bobby 2005-06-21 22:18|| 2005-06-21 22:18|| Front Page Top

#15 If you liked it, please feel free to borrow - like Senator Lieberman - and use parts in your OWN letter to Turban Durbin or other Senators.

Posted by Bobby 2005-06-21 22:25|| 2005-06-21 22:25|| Front Page Top

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