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2005-06-15 Israel-Palestine

Are Bush Policies Eroding U.S. - Israel Ties?

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Posted by Thotch Glesing2372 2005-06-15 00:34|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The article is whining that the Bush administration is preventing sales of Israeli technology to China.

Posted by mhw 2005-06-15 08:21|| 2005-06-15 08:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Notice how when jews stop dying, Israel/'palestine' slips off the MSM radar.

Posted by phil_b 2005-06-15 08:45|| 2005-06-15 08:45|| Front Page Top

#3 Israel needs to understand that the China sales aren't worth the cost to ties to us. Damage would be the Liberty incident extended forever and thrown in their face at every opportunity by their only friend on the world stage

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-06-15 09:45|| 2005-06-15 09:45|| Front Page Top

#4 INN is a far right wing Israeli website. Most Israelis are much more sensitive to US relations.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-06-15 09:49|| 2005-06-15 09:49|| Front Page Top

#5 When Israel supplies a big chunk of Uncle Sam's defense budget and most of Uncle Sam's weaponry, and provides a nuclear umbrella for Uncle Sam, then Israel can decide what weaponry Uncle Sam can sell to its Arab neighbors. This blindness towards the danger (to US-Israeli ties) from Israeli sales to China is bipartisan - various Labor governments pushed through the sales of advanced equipment to China under Clinton's accomodative policies (towards China). At bottom, the Israelis are trying to defray the cost of R&D. They need to understand, however, that their R&D is going to get a lot more expensive when Uncle Sam stops supplying advanced weapons to them.

Posted by Zhang Fei">Zhang Fei 2005-06-15 10:04|| http://timurileng.blogspot.com]">[http://timurileng.blogspot.com] 2005-06-15 10:04|| Front Page Top

#6 When the Israelis were developing their F-16 related Lavi fighter, we transferred a huge amount of technology to them. They nevertheless stole (or at least tried to steal) more ... I remember the brouhaha over attempts by them to crack our composite materials manufacturing in particular. Congress pressured them to shut down the Lavi program when it became clear they would not agree not to resell the plane despite the requirements of the ITAR (International Traffic in Arms Regulations) provisions in the export licenses granted to them for the technologies we made available.

Two years ago they sold Lavi technology and IIRC some airframes to China.

Posted by rkb 2005-06-15 10:17|| 2005-06-15 10:17|| Front Page Top

#7 And as I pointed out to you later, Robin, they used the Lavi technology (among other stuff) to make targetting pods for export. And they can and probably will export said pods to the nations we sold planes to but left out the air-to-ground capability so it wouldn't be a threat to Israel...

Posted by Phil Not At Normal Computer 2005-06-15 10:47|| 2005-06-15 10:47|| Front Page Top

#8 Nuttin' wrong with maintaining ties; just scale back technology transfers. They'll get the message sooner or later.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-06-15 11:03|| 2005-06-15 11:03|| Front Page Top

#9 True, BaR. and, the transfers have gone both ways.

The problem is that they don't have a sustainable way to fund their own defense efforts. I understand their problem -- I just object to their solution when it comes to countries like China.

Posted by rkb 2005-06-15 12:14|| 2005-06-15 12:14|| Front Page Top

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