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2005-06-09 Iraq-Jordan
Its Cool to kill Muslims — Zarqawi (frm MEMRI)
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Posted by Glainter Flomp7031 2005-06-09 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 mebbe we are jus need confinsen them thatn there all apostates in sum way.
Posted by muck4doo 2005-06-09 01:12|| http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]">[http://meatismurder.blogspot.com/]  2005-06-09 01:12|| Front Page Top

#2 Me and Zarqawi finally agree on something.
Posted by Destro 2005-06-09 02:22||   2005-06-09 02:22|| Front Page Top

#3 Wow, talk about moral relativism! This is a faith that needs some major adjustment if not abolition.
Posted by Tom 2005-06-09 08:27||   2005-06-09 08:27|| Front Page Top

#4 virtually all wahabis and many salafists believe that Shiites, Ismailis, Ahmiyadas and Sufis who oppose Salafism are a class of infidels that is worse than non-Islamic infidels

this classification was part of the Salafist 'reform' during the 19th century and, if you believe that the early caliphs were pure because they practised pure and spartan islam (which is an egregiously false notion), then it is 'logical' to believe that the post 8th century sects are a threat
Posted by mhw 2005-06-09 08:40||   2005-06-09 08:40|| Front Page Top

#5 Looks very "nuanced" to me...
Posted by John Fn Kerry 2005-06-09 08:41||   2005-06-09 08:41|| Front Page Top

#6 "Interpreting His words [in the Koran, 2:191] 'Temptation [Fitna] is worse than killing,' [the commentator] Mujahid says: 'For a Muslim, apostasy into idolatry is worse than death'..."

This about sums it all up. Lots of religions have used the apostasy excuse to kill their respective apostates. The reasoning goes something like, apostates are worse than the worse infidels because they do know the word and have turned from it.

I think Mucky sums is on to something....
"mebbe we are jus need confinsen them thatn there all apostates in sum way."

Kind of why it made sense to send arms to both Iran and Iraq during the Iran/Iraq war in the 80's.
Posted by TomAnon 2005-06-09 08:55||   2005-06-09 08:55|| Front Page Top

#7 Whoa missed than one TomAnon! Definitely goes in the Big Golden Bokk of Muck Wizdom.
Posted by Shipman 2005-06-09 10:02||   2005-06-09 10:02|| Front Page Top

#8 "Allah made it lawful to kill people as much as necessary for the good of humanity."

Adolf & Josef and I are SO proud to have been doing Allah's work: we all love that phrase "as much as neccesary", it was key to our justification of the eradication of those who were in our way.

Pay no attention to the guy with the horns & flaming pitchfork behind me...
Posted by PolPot 2005-06-09 10:17||   2005-06-09 10:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Appropo that they use the word "necessity" in their argument to justify the slaughter of the innocent.

Necessity never made a good bargain. -- Benjamin Franklin

Necessity has no law. -- Benjamin Franklin

Necessity knows no law except to conquer. -- Publilius Syrus

Feigned necessities, imaginary necessities, are the greatest cozenage men can put upon the Providence of God, and make pretences to break known rules by. -- Oliver Cromwell

And last, but best:

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves. -- William Pitt
Posted by OldSpook 2005-06-09 10:26||   2005-06-09 10:26|| Front Page Top

#10 Makes me wonder about the other side of the coin.

What if super-rich super-power Spain had taken her wealth from the New World and continued the Reconquesta into North Africa instead of tangling with Apostate European powers. I kind of think we wouldn't have an Islamic North Africa today. I kind of think the Turks could have been beaten back before they got their roots too deep into Balkan soil.

But the heretic is so much worse in the minds of a fanatic. Reminds me of the Left's reaction to George W. Bush as well.
Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz  2005-06-09 10:26|| rjschwarz.com]">[rjschwarz.com]  2005-06-09 10:26|| Front Page Top

#11 what is that I hear? open discussion and debate in the muslim world about the merits of zark's position? condemnation by enlightened muslims? honest soul searching in muslim communities about what is right and good and wrong and evil about their teachings and practices?

oh. no. it's crickets. my mistake.
Posted by PlanetDan">PlanetDan  2005-06-09 11:26||   2005-06-09 11:26|| Front Page Top

#12 I still love you anyways, Sheiky!
I send you kissy kissys for your purty mouth!
Posted by Mahmoud Al-Jailbirdi 2005-06-09 11:32||   2005-06-09 11:32|| Front Page Top

#13 Religion of Confusion and 1/2 truths
Posted by Clomoter Shains6002 2005-06-09 11:47||   2005-06-09 11:47|| Front Page Top

#14 Nutters, the lot of them. Lets just hope they never get hold of nukes or we are all f...ed. Infidels and Muslims
Posted by Shistos Shistadogloo 2005-06-09 14:14||   2005-06-09 14:14|| Front Page Top

#15 Truer words were never spoken typed, SS.
Posted by .com 2005-06-09 14:17||   2005-06-09 14:17|| Front Page Top

#16 You forgot one, Old Spook....

Necessity has the face of a dog ___
Gabriel García Márquez

But Z has such a nice smile....
Posted by Ulath Sneng3465 2005-06-09 15:36||   2005-06-09 15:36|| Front Page Top

#17 Is there anybody Muslims Don't want to kill?
Posted by bigjim-ky 2005-06-09 15:39||   2005-06-09 15:39|| Front Page Top

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