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2005-06-01 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-06-01 00:18|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Okaaaaay. So they're gonna "fight" Wahhabism, huh. Werdz vs. Money. Game. Set. Match. Before the Ump even greets the players.

Posted by .com 2005-06-01 01:45|| 2005-06-01 01:45|| Front Page Top

#2 "Referring to the Koran"

That is the problem. The Koran is on the side of the Wahabists.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-06-01 01:50|| 2005-06-01 01:50|| Front Page Top

#3 Which Quran? The Saudi funded Wahhabi one?

I suggest this poor soul has a short live expectancy.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-06-01 02:15|| 2005-06-01 02:15|| Front Page Top

#4 perhaps some of the Chechens are fed up with Arab condescension and infiltration of their own revolt against Moscow

Posted by too true 2005-06-01 08:50|| 2005-06-01 08:50|| Front Page Top

#5 That is the problem. The Koran is on the side of the Wahabists

According to Imam and high Mufti JFM.

A religious text can be interpreted in many ways. A tradition can interpret a text in ways almost opposite to its literal meaning. How the hell does someone whose NOT a believer in that particular text decide which is the RIGHT interpretation.

All that matters is what MUSLIMS accept as the right interpretation. And for hundreds of years most did NOT accept the Wahabi interpretation.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-06-01 11:16|| 2005-06-01 11:16|| Front Page Top

#6 perhaps some of the Chechens are fed up with Arab condescension and infiltration of their own revolt against Moscow

as dan implies, more likely these are guys who dont support the revolt.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-06-01 11:17|| 2005-06-01 11:17|| Front Page Top

#7 There are still places (including Pakistan) where the Wahhabis still have plenty of opposition from other Muhammadans. One cleric wrote that Wahhabis and Deobandis weren't even Muslim, and were worse than unbelievers. World of Fatwas by Arun Shourie.

Posted by James">James 2005-06-01 11:30|| http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com]">[http://idontknowbut.blogspot.com] 2005-06-01 11:30|| Front Page Top

#8 And for hundreds of years most did NOT accept the Wahabi interpretation.

A lot of them seemed to have changed their minds in the last decade or so.

Posted by SteveS 2005-06-01 12:18|| 2005-06-01 12:18|| Front Page Top

#9 If he comes into contact with a Wahhabi, do they cancel out in a violent release of energy?

Posted by mojo">mojo 2005-06-01 12:26|| 2005-06-01 12:26|| Front Page Top

#10 A lot of them seemed to have changed their minds in the last decade or so.

Yup, massive Saudi financed missionizing, building and taking over mosques and madrassahs, etc has had an effect.

Posted by liberalhawk 2005-06-01 13:04|| 2005-06-01 13:04|| Front Page Top

#11 A lot of them seemed to have changed their minds in the last decade or so.

Given the demographics, many of them never knew another way an may never know another interpretation of Islam.

Posted by rkb 2005-06-01 13:46|| 2005-06-01 13:46|| Front Page Top

#12 Not necessary, mojo. Wahabbi's release energy violently without any help whenever they come into contact with women and children, especially joooooos.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-06-01 15:44|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-06-01 15:44|| Front Page Top

#13 Liberal Hawk

You see it happens I have read the Koran. It si full of contractions but the Medina surates preeempt the Mecca ones due to having been written later and they are choke full with calls to go to Jihad (BTW: there is no mention on Koran of any Jihad through an internal struggle) so any controversy based on the Koran can only end with the victory of the wahabists.

Posted by JFM">JFM 2005-06-01 16:34|| 2005-06-01 16:34|| Front Page Top

#14 LiberalHawk, this is an illiberal religion. There are liberal muslims, and peaceful muslims, but the religion itself is not liberal or peaceful. The only way to control the virus that is islam is to inoculate the state against it, as the Turks have done, or else counterbalance the islamists with powerful secularists, as Talabani and the Kurds are trying to do in Iraq.

Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-06-01 16:40|| 2005-06-01 16:40|| Front Page Top

#15 It si full of contractions but the Medina surates preeempt the Mecca ones due to having been written later and they are choke full with calls to go to Jihad

Perhaps we should have posted a fine verse from the Medina surates each week to demonstrate Rantburg's big tent, tolerant philosophy.

Posted by Shipman 2005-06-01 17:29|| 2005-06-01 17:29|| Front Page Top

#16 Liberalhawk is right: it doesn't matter what the religion of Islam is right now, it matters what it could become if we, ah, "nudge" it in the right direction. Or kick.

It doesn't matter to me
So long as they all start watching MTV.
-Secret Master's Surra

Posted by Secret Master 2005-06-01 17:47|| 2005-06-01 17:47|| Front Page Top

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