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2005-05-07 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by God Save The World 2005-05-07 00:00:00 AM|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Its really time to get MidEvil with the relatives of these terrorists.
Counter offer if he's not released in 72 hours bad things happen.

Posted by 3dc 2005-05-07 00:11|| 2005-05-07 00:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Looks like he's been hit too. Bastards.

We've captured quite a few terrorists recently haven't we?, kill one terrorist every 6 hours until he's released. If they do kill him, take 10 out, line 'em up against a wall and kill 'em.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-05-07 04:34|| 2005-05-07 04:34|| Front Page Top

#3 Isn't this like against the Geneva convention which the ACLU and CAIR is so insistant is in force?

Where are they now? Have they filed suit aginst the terrorist organization? Against the militant group? How aboout OBL or Zac. I think Douglas has been 'humiliated' and they need to take action .

Hello? Hello?

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-05-07 07:14|| 2005-05-07 07:14|| Front Page Top

#4 I feel very sorry for Douglas Wood and his family, but also annoyed on a couple of points:

By releasing these hostage snuff flicks, Jihadis hope to create popular pressure from Australian civilians on their Government.

By broadcasting these flicks on western media, we help them achieve their goal. THere should be a blanket ban on the broadcast of hostage footage.

The media, particularly left-biased publications which eagerly seize on every negative scrap of news from Iraq not only help the enemy goal but encourage them to use these tactics more.

It is like cigarette company ads in movies where actors smoke, thus promoting the product. Only the cigarette companies pay. The Jihadis get FREE advertising space by creating a news story to shock the world and decrease support for the US in Iraq.

So why do we play their game over and over?!!! How about printing a positive story about Iraq to balance it? Or minimising it? Or reporting it without publicising what the demands are?

Wake up Western Media and get some standards.

Secondly: If kidnapped in Iraq (and we all know it's a possibility if you go there) WHY WHY WHY co-operate with the Jihadis and say things like ''please remove your troops from Iraq''.

Why not instead wreck their little snuff film and say ''Screw you I'll show you how an Australian dies!'' as death is pretty well inevitable.

Or: ''kill as many of the Islamist jihadi scum as you can for me'' or something like that.

The film would be useless and they'd kill you: which they'd do anyway.

Or just refuse to talk.

Posted by anon1 2005-05-07 08:26|| 2005-05-07 08:26|| Front Page Top

#5 By releasing these hostage snuff flicks, Jihadis hope to create popular pressure from Australian civilians on their Government. You are correct, but I see no indication that it is working. While this is splashed across the media, no one, not even the usual leftist shills, is saying the government should change its position or even pay a ransom.

Posted by phil_b 2005-05-07 08:52|| 2005-05-07 08:52|| Front Page Top

#6 The positive stories from Iraq are often either press-releasish or treacly, which means people tend to skip over them. I don't include stories about personal heroism in that description, by the way.

One thing we have been missing, except here at Rantburg, is any kind of real assessment by the press of what makes up the Bad Guy organization. Even here, for fear of becoming too repetitive, I haven't been diligent in pushing my observation that the Bad Guyz are controlled by a cross between SPECTRE, the Council of Boskone, and The Insidious Dr. Fu Manchu. When we were kids -- those of us over a certain age, anyway -- you could tell the bad guys when you went to the movies or watched the teevee. They wore black hats and usually were the uglies. If you grew up reading Dick Tracy comix, you knew Pruneface and Flat-top weren't on the side of truth and goodness. Pirates, as everybody knows, had peg legs and eye patches and made people walk the plank. Even today, if you go to a Star Wars movie, you've got no real doubt as to who the bad guys are.

Yet here we are, fighting a war to the death -- also a point not being pushed -- with an enemy largely consisting of Dick Tracy characters and (in some cases literally) pirates. We've got one-eyed Mullah Omar, peg-leg Basayev, and pruneface al-Libbi. Khalid Sheikh Mohammad looks like Vanessa del Rio's true love, fergawdsake. Nobody's walked the plank lately, but lots of people have had their heads cut off. We seem to have a lot more emotional reaction to the Katyn Forest massacre than the mass graves, still being filled, mind you, in Iraq. And we do have the Bad Guyz own words to dispell any lingering doubts that they're simply misunderstood or that they're somebody we could negotiate with, meet halfway. We've got one such article today, from Pakland. Yet this isn't a picture the media's painting. To me, that's where they're really falling down, and it's the weakest part of the entire war effort. We're fighting against characters who'd make good cartoons, complete with fanatical minions, and we're worried about their "civil rights."

Thhhhpppp!

Posted by Fred 2005-05-07 09:31|| 2005-05-07 09:31|| Front Page Top

#7 Yet this isn't a picture the media's painting. To me, that's where they're really falling down, and it's the weakest part of the entire war effort

I haven't had time to read my news on the net lately and I can say that other than the fact that bombs are going off in Iraq on a daily basis - I get no news about the war. None of the huge and monumental events in Lebanon, Syria, or anywhere else for that matter are known to the average person. Without logging into the net, it's easy to forget there is a war going on. I can tell you what's going on with michael, martha or the latest missing child - but a war? Who knew?

I can tell you with 99% certainty that it will be reported that somewhere a bomb went off today and it will be accompanied with an ambulance swarm video and pictures of bodies. NPR will report it with sound overs of ambulance sirens, babies crying and foreigners shouting orders....as is a requirement in all of their pieces.

None of the big and meaningful NEWS being reported on rantburg will make it to the average ears... they have no clue.

Posted by 2b 2005-05-07 10:06|| 2005-05-07 10:06|| Front Page Top

#8 Ahead of the curve again Fred.

Posted by Shipman 2005-05-07 10:12|| 2005-05-07 10:12|| Front Page Top

#9 Great rant Fred. That's why I'm here so much. It's the only place where you get so much of what is going on without a pre-digested slant (we provide that in the comments.) Thanks Fred.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-05-07 11:12|| 2005-05-07 11:12|| Front Page Top

#10 Your right Fred.

An excellent example is the media [non] coverage of Beslin - that Russian school. The media, by and large, called the terrorsts/rapist/murders simply 'hostage takers' and did *everything* they [the media] could do to cover for the inhuman scum. Never was the fact that all the 'hostages takers' were islamic extreamist mentioned. Never mentioned were the girls dragged to rooms to be gang raped or the bayonetted babies. Even now, if it is ever mentioned they are simply called 'hostage-takers' as if it was a simple criminal act.

This goes beyond being sensitve to the victims - the MSM has no problem feeding other victims - why now? Personally I think it was deliberate to protect the terrorist and keep people from seeing the truth.

Yes, I have repeated this rant many times. I do not apologise. But I will never forget the looks of terror on the children as they ran away trying to escape. These monsters simply must be stopped - simply pacifying them in one option. Killing them is another.

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-05-07 11:36|| 2005-05-07 11:36|| Front Page Top

#11 "To me, that's where they're really falling down, and it's the weakest part of the entire war effort."

I'm having more and more trouble thinking of them as falling down on the job, and less and less trouble believing they're simply on the other side, working tirelessly-- and very effectively-- to further the enemy cause.

Posted by Dave D. 2005-05-07 12:09|| 2005-05-07 12:09|| Front Page Top

#12 Furthering the enemy cause is probably not consciously on the MSM agenda. Their cause is the destruction of President Bush. Any other fallout from their actions is.....just fallout, no big deal. That is, no big deal until some boomer or shooter takes out their MSM HQ. Then it's Mommie Mommie.

It reminds me of the Left during my UC Berkeley days. Leaves a bad taste. More than bad taste, more like total revulsion and disgust.

Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul 2005-05-07 12:25|| 2005-05-07 12:25|| Front Page Top

#13 I'm quite confident that if we pull together we're going to make bacon bits out of Libby, Osama, KSM and all their cross-eyed kinfolk. The issue is whether we're all going to pull together, and that's where the MSM comes in.

Posted by Matt 2005-05-07 13:01|| 2005-05-07 13:01|| Front Page Top

#14 Yes, I feel sorry for the hostage and the families involved. He does NOT stand a chance.
I understand that those employed over there make TOP DOLLAR- but is it worth it? My personal safety/health does not wear a price tag. I would fly home and take an engineer job in the U.S. As a matter of fact I would work for an attorney or McDonald's- which is worse an attorney or Mc D's?

Andrea Jackson

Posted by Andrea Jackson">Andrea Jackson 2005-05-07 14:14|| 2005-05-07 14:14|| Front Page Top

#15 What's worse is selling snow skis at WalMart to the Kennedy clan.

Posted by Shipman 2005-05-07 15:10|| 2005-05-07 15:10|| Front Page Top

#16 Saudis alone have over one trillion dollars invested in the US. A great deal of that must be in media stock. "Offshore investors" (Arabs) are a leading source of the high risk venture capital that fuels so many media enterprises. Is it any wonder then, that we see the kind of coverage we do? The facts are not in dispute but the all-important interpretation and presentation is increasingly dictated from Riyadh and other enemy capitals. How would we have done in World War 2 if Goebbels had been running the American media too?
Many of the media lords are traitors in the literal sense, willfully giving aid and comfort to a violent enemy and doing so for personal gain. This is a mortal threat and the most drastic action must be taken to address it.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-05-07 17:24|| 2005-05-07 17:24|| Front Page Top

#17 "That is, no big deal until some boomer or shooter takes out their MSM HQ."

Keyboard to God's ears. Speaking of the Big Guy, we should now all say a prayer of thanks for the Ninth Circuit, which in its infinite wisdom has finally recognized our right to say what must be said.
As an academic exercise, how should these media-cleansing boomers and shootists proceed if they are to get the best results? I suggest satellite antenna farms outside local cable operations. There are a lot of these scattered about, they are soft targets, and they could be hit during off-hours when few people are about. The media lords could scarcely ignore their destruction and the message would be obvious. OTOH, assassinating some evil media beast is a bad idea, deserving though they are. Violence against people, even media types, is in a whole different category. The victim would be elevated from shill to martyr overnight and, if all else fails, the media lords and their political hacks could represent the deed as a simple common-law crime. It could be dismissed as the work of the proverbial white male NRA member or perhaps as a completely random shooting by careless gun nuts or even friendly fire by drug dealers.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-05-07 17:35|| 2005-05-07 17:35|| Front Page Top

#18 I still want to know who Kenneth was and just why that particular frequency was so damned important.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-05-07 17:38|| 2005-05-07 17:38|| Front Page Top

#19 :-)

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