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Posted by .com 2005-04-16 9:19:07 AM|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Shut the f*&king border
Posted by Frank G  2005-04-16 10:44:33 AM||   2005-04-16 10:44:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 This is one of those borderline (pun intended) situations where it sounds like, with the info available, that it could go either way. That he was right, in the end, to detain them doesn't explain everything.

At sum, however, Frank nails it: If there wasn't such a HUGE problem because our borders are wide open and the laws of the land are not being enforced, this event would not have happened.

Having been a border state Governor must be what's behind Bush's attitude regards illegals - the economics and politics are byzantine. It's the only thing that really explains it. The fact that the Congress won't address this squarely either, just makes it more ominous and frustrating. There will be a different price to pay, someday... not votes and not filling unfilled labor needs.

Sooner, rather than later, the economics and politics will have to give way to security. Dead Americans, unfortunately, seem to be the missing ingredient to foment real action by the Govt - which never seems to get off the damned dime until forced by events. That just sucks. See that, Bush, Senators, Congressmen? That's an oncoming train, fools.
Posted by .com 2005-04-16 11:06:18 AM||   2005-04-16 11:06:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 "Dead Americans, unfortunately, seem to be the missing ingredient to foment real action by the Govt."

HUH? There are thousands of Americans who have been killed by illegals.
Posted by  Shut the ***** borders 2005-04-16 11:57:08 AM||   2005-04-16 11:57:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 St*b - You know what I mean and how it works.

Recall the Serbian Cleansing of Bosnia:
Day 1 - 10, 6 people die each day on average in Sarajevo. Almost no coverage in the MSM.

Day 11 - 60 people die in mortar attack that hits a market. The NEXT DAY, Peter Jennings, et al, are hosting the evening news, in their Roland Hedley safari jackets, from that market. Almost no violence for the next 2 weeks because of bad PR for the Serbs.

Now what's idfferent about 60 dead spread over 10 days, at 6 avg per day, versus 60 dead in one day of 10 where 60 is the total for the period?

That quirk of human nature and MSM marketing approach is my answer to your post. If 1,000 Americans die in a terr hit from a border-crossing jihadi, shit will start happening. Per my pervious comment, nothing will happen otherwise.
Posted by .com 2005-04-16 12:07:34 PM||   2005-04-16 12:07:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Point taken...sad, as it is.
Posted by St*b 2005-04-16 12:30:43 PM||   2005-04-16 12:30:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 St*b - I'm with you - I find the situation obviously broken and in need of immediate action.

One death is too many.
Posted by .com 2005-04-16 12:33:20 PM||   2005-04-16 12:33:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 It's time to educate Arizonans on the concept of 'jury nullification'. Legal scholars seem to hold that jurists may only rule on guilt or innocence, not on justness of the law, but simpletons like me disagree. Why even bother with a jury of 'peers' if they were not to provide a last line of defence against tyranny of government?
Posted by Glenmore  2005-04-16 11:47:17 PM||   2005-04-16 11:47:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 This issue is the next "firebell in the night."

If the Repubs don't get serious about this, then I can easily see the southwest and Rocky Mtn swing states sliding into blue territory in 2008, if only because so many enraged conservative voters in those states will stay home in November.

Who will step up and address the complete travesty that our immigration policy has become? NOt Vincente Fox's buddy in teh White House. Not the clueless Dems.

If Hillary can figure out how to play this one, then she'll be a strong contender in '08, and the Repubs will have only themselves to blame for pissing away what should be a natural winner for them.
Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-04-17 12:02:14 AM||   2005-04-17 12:02:14 AM|| Front Page Top

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