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2005-02-16 Europe

Islamism and leftism add up to anti-American madness in Turkey.

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Posted by Mike 2005-02-16 6:51:38 AM|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 And the Turks wonder why we are sympathetic to the Kurds.

Posted by phil_b 2005-02-16 7:02:36 AM|| 2005-02-16 7:02:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 You've got to laugh. What a bunch of morons.

It all sounds loony, I know. But such stories are told in all seriousness at the most powerful dinner tables in Ankara.

You'd hear similar, although less 'far out', conversations at dinner tables in London, too. Engaged in by people most commonly referred to as 'intellectuals' or 'elite'. Time to junk such terminology, IMO. Narrow-minded professional workaholics aren't an elite any more than fishermen or plumbers, and those who show a determination to not learn from real-world experiences cannot possibly be referred to as 'intellectual' without irony. Any suggestions?

Posted by Bulldog 2005-02-16 7:19:10 AM|| 2005-02-16 7:19:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Maybe that's why the EU wants them to join Europe.

Posted by Glereger Cleregum6223 2005-02-16 7:32:05 AM|| 2005-02-16 7:32:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I've long been fond of the simple pseudo-intellectual, BD, coupled with a gentle smile. Alternately, the self-described elite. Unfortunately, while people like us understand immediately, the targets too often think it refers to someone else.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-02-16 7:36:07 AM|| 2005-02-16 7:36:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Perhaps the most bizarre anti-American story au courant in the Turkish capital is the "eighth planet" theory, which holds not only that the U.S. knows of an impending asteroid strike, but that we know itâs going to hit North America. Hence our desire to colonize the Middle East.

They're not even aware there are nine -- maybe ten, depending how you count -- planets.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-02-16 8:01:24 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-02-16 8:01:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Bulldog:
You get conversations like that right here in Tucson. At the U of A, of course.

RC:
"They're not even aware there are nine -- maybe ten, depending how you count -- planets."

Well, of course not. The Koran says there are seven, so seven it is. And we didn't go to the moon, either, since Allan's reign will last until men walk on the moon.

Posted by jackal 2005-02-16 8:16:41 AM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-02-16 8:16:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 In addition to helping Turkey with all the things mentioned, we've hosted tens of thousands of govt personnel in the US to give training in data collection, statistics, etc. We've provided seismic engineering to their building designers. We've trained their EMT personnel in rescue techniques. We've also hosted many, many citizens in private US homes. Thousands of Turkish citizens are employed by the US military at air bases in Turkey.

Posted by mhw 2005-02-16 8:31:56 AM|| 2005-02-16 8:31:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Jackal - " And we didn't go to the moon, either, since Allan's reign will last until men walk on the moon."
I hope you made that up! Otherwise I understand why they hate us. No paradise, no virgins, no nothing..

Posted by 3dc 2005-02-16 8:39:14 AM|| 2005-02-16 8:39:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Islamism and leftism add up to anti-American madness...

The Islamism is probably redundant at this point.

Posted by BH 2005-02-16 10:07:07 AM|| 2005-02-16 10:07:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 We should move with all dispatch to get our people out of Turkey in general and Incirlik in particular so that we can feel free to flash fry the Turkish Army when it tries to invade northern Iraq (Kurdistan).

Posted by RWV 2005-02-16 10:34:54 AM|| 2005-02-16 10:34:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Bulldog: I've always been partial to the term "chattering classes" for the people you describe.

Posted by 11A5S 2005-02-16 12:07:20 PM|| 2005-02-16 12:07:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 How did these bastards find out so quickly about our "Eighth Planet Theory"? Our plans have been foiled again! Quick! To the Time Machine!!

Posted by shellback 2005-02-16 1:13:59 PM|| 2005-02-16 1:13:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Turkey could easily become just another second-rate country:...

"Could"????

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-02-16 6:00:24 PM|| 2005-02-16 6:00:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 A Muslim is a muslim is a muslim...
Jihadis and Turks and Pakis and Saudis and what not...

Posted by Glereper Craviter7929 2005-02-16 7:51:54 PM|| 2005-02-16 7:51:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Now I understand why Turkey is called turkey! Thank God they were finally driven out of my ancestral homeland!

Posted by Janos Hunyadi 2005-02-16 8:24:04 PM|| 2005-02-16 8:24:04 PM|| Front Page Top

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