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2004-11-17 China-Japan-Koreas
Japan spurns Russian initiative
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Posted by tipper 2004-11-17 10:16:59 AM|| || Front Page|| [3 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I agree. You start a war, you have to accept the consequences. There are no do-overs.
Posted by BH 2004-11-17 10:52:56 AM||   2004-11-17 10:52:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "What can we get in exchange for the other two?" That is exactly the question. Russia should push for Japanese expertese/financing to upgrade the transsiberian railroad. Make it a bullet train so they can help shift some population over to the Pacific coast where the money is going to be made this century and ship some resources back to Moscow.
Posted by rjschwarz  2004-11-17 10:53:26 AM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]  2004-11-17 10:53:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Throw in oil.
Posted by anonymous2u 2004-11-17 11:42:02 AM||   2004-11-17 11:42:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I could be wrong here, but didn't the Soviets declare war on Japan AFTER we dropped the first bomb? Sooooooooo, maybe the Japs have a small case here.
Posted by Weird Al 2004-11-17 11:55:25 AM||   2004-11-17 11:55:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Forget it. Russia's Far East is already lost. Putin doesn't even exercise real authority there. Its regional governments under the thumb of corrupt and brutal dictators masquerading as "governors", and in any case these regions will be effectively overrun by Chinese interests within a generation.

Kiss em goodbye, Volodya. You've got enough trouble on your hands in European Russia.
Posted by lex 2004-11-17 12:03:32 PM||   2004-11-17 12:03:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 One way of reclaiming the area is to convince a more sympathetic population to head East. I wouldnt' give up on half of my nation so quickly if I were Putin.
Posted by rjschwarz  2004-11-17 3:41:10 PM|| [http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]  2004-11-17 3:41:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 He hasn't given up. It's just that he can't win. Which is why he's playing bully-boy in Ukraine and Moldova.
Posted by lex 2004-11-17 4:41:16 PM||   2004-11-17 4:41:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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