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2004-10-03 Southeast Asia
New sultan of Sulu vows to wrest Sabah from Malaysia
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Posted by Fred 2004-10-03 10:26:50 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Why the world so chaos about the an "Impostor" Sultan Roodinood? (By refer the the P.A.W.C.I - USA Record & Nicholas Tarling, Sulu & Sabah: Page: 327 -Clearly mentioned that Sultan Jamalul-Kiram-II had shares with many wives, but unfortunately they presented him with NO HEIR, "NO MALE ISSUE" when he dead in 1936). So, if Sultan Jamalul-Kiram-II have NO HEIR's....then who's these Sultan Julaspi-Kiram-II & Sultan Roodinood?! The answer, THEY ARE AN IMPOSTORS to the Sulu Sultanate! Anybody can proclaim themselves as "The Sultan of Sulu", BUT must "Prove" their claims with evidences first! The Sulu "Real-Heirs" have holding the royal heritages-symbols as The Pulau Janggi (Sepoh Janggi) & The Sulu Sultanate Seals. (The Kiram -Gold Seal, Shakiraullah -Silver Seal & The Maharajah Adinda/Arinda -Cooper Seal). So, what was the Sultan Julaspi & Sultan Roodinood royal heritages-symbols they have?! The Sulu Sultanate have 3 Lineages (if you refer to the symbols on the Sulu Sultanate flag), the Kiram (Keris symbol), Shakiraullah (Barung/Big Sword) and The Maharajah Adinda/Arinda families (Spear symbol). Also, in THE SULU SULTANATE SYSTEM, the Sulu Sultanate throne should "ROTATED" among the 3 lineages of the Sulu Royal families (Refer to Ceaser Adib Majul -Sulu Political Institution). So, since the death of Sultan Jamalul-Kiram-II in 1936, the Kiram & Shakiraullah families right to the Sulu throne were "ENDED", (due to they are came from so-called the first heir-apparents). Since that time, their families just can be called as "The Heirs" NOT "The Successors". Then the throne should give & belongs to The Maharajah Adinda/Arinda families as so-called the second heir-apparent. This is the Sulu Royal-Families called as "The Heirs And Successors" as have been documented on the 1878 North-Borneo Leasing Agreement. Nowdays, only the Maharajah Adinda/Arinda families have fully right to claim the Sulu & the North-Borneo territories, NOT Kiram, Shakiraullah or other parties! THESE ARE THE FACTS SHOULD UNDERSTAND BY ANYBODY!
Posted by HRH.RAJA BONGSU-2  2004-10-15 3:17:40 AM||   2004-10-15 3:17:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Sultan, schmultan. Sabah people should self-determine their destiny.
Posted by Conanista 2004-10-15 3:36:45 AM||   2004-10-15 3:36:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 THE SULU SULTANATE TRUE-HEIR's GENEALOGY (THE TRUE SULTAN OF SULU NOWDAYS) IS;

HIS ROYAL HIGHNESS DATU/SULTAN ALIUDDIN (DATU ALIUDDIN -His name now in Sabah) @ DATU HADDIS PABILA (His name when he was young) @ DATU MAPUTIH (The Sulu peoples called him by this name)

BIN HRH.DATU MOHAMMAD SIE/SEH/SHEIKH
-The person's whom was Sultan Jamalul-Kiram-II looking for at Siasi Island for getting a seal to his Installation letter's (from the Maharajah Adinda/Arinda Royal Seal, the Cooper-Seal) for the purposed of authentication of his installation, after his coronation as the Sultan of Sulu.

IBNI MAHARAJAH ADINDA/ARINDA SULTAN MOHAMMAD ARANAN/ADANAN PUYO- DATU ARANAN/ADANAN PUYO
-He just sat on the Sulu Sultanate throne just for a week only in 1862, after Sultan Pulalon. Then he abdicated himself from the throne, and give the throne to Datu Jamalul-Azam @ A'lam. He abdicated himself from the throne, due to old and lacked of wealth. He was NOT given the Sulu throne to his own sons, Datu Amirul, Datu Mohammad Sie/Seh/Sheikh or Datu Laja. WHY? Because he was following the "TARTIB"-The Sulu Protocol System. That the Sulu Sultanate throne should "ROTATED" among the Sulu Royal Families (The Kiram, Shakiraullah & Maharajah Adinda/Arinda Families). His strong supports, then succeeded Datu Jamalul Azam @ A'lam to the throne become Sultan Jamalul Azam @ A'lam, even on that time have rival claims from Datu Jamalul Azam @ A'lam brother's to the throne, Datu Daniel ibni Sultan Pulalon. *This matters maybe cause then Sultan Jamalul Azam @ A'lam want the Maharajah Adinda/Arinda Families succeed the Sulu Sultanate throne after him. The words "The Heirs And Successors" in the 1878 North-Borneo Leasing Agreement proved that after the Kiram Families, the throne should give or belong to the Maharajah Adinda/Arinda Families, not to the other heirs!

IBNI PADUKA RAJA MUDA DATU BANTILAN
-He supposed to became the Sultan of Sulu after the death of Sultan Azimuddin @ Alimuddin-III in 1808. But, unfortunately his throne was grabbed by Sultan Aliuddin when he was not in Sulu.

IBNI SULTAN AZIMUDDIN @ ALIMUDDIN-II
-He succeeded the throne for the first time after his father Sultan Bantilan Muizzuddin. And the second time after Sultan Muhammad Esrail ibni Sultan Azimuddin @ Alimuddin-I.

IBNI SULTAN BANTILAN MUIZZUDDIN
-He was the person's who was not agreed with his brother Sultan Azimuddin @ Alimuddin-I @ Datu Lagasan ibni Sultan Badaruddin-I plan, which allowed the Christians Jesuits come to Sulu. The fighted of these 2 brothers, then forced Sultan Azimuddin @ Alimuddin-I leaved Sulu and then went to Manila.

IBNI SULTAN BADARUDDIN-I
-His first-wife's (from Soopeng, Sulawesi), then borned Sultan Azimuddin @ Alimuddin-I @ Datu Lagasan. His second-wife's (the Princess of Tirun Ruler, North-Borneo/Sabah), then borned Sultan Bantilan Muizzuddin @ Datu Pengeran Rajah Muda Bantilan and Dayang Meria (the mother's of Datu Teteng @ Tating-The person attacked the British sattlement at Balambangan in 1775. This Datu Teteng @ Tating have "Tanduk or Horn's" which growth on his head. The tanduk/Horn still exist till present and keep by the Maharajah Adinda/Arinda Families due to Datu Teteng @ Tating not have any heir).

IBNI SULTAN SALAHUDDIN-KARAMAT @ PANGERAN BAKHTIAR
-He was the person's to whom Sultan Muaddin from Brunei asked for help to fight Sultan Abdul Mubin at Pulau Chermin. The help of the Sultan of Sulu, then Brunei reward "North-Borneo/Sabah" to the Sulu Sultanate.

IBNI SULTAN MAWALIL-WASIT @ RAJA BONGSU-I
-He was reward PULAU JANGGI (Sepoh Janggi) by his father's Sultan Hassan of Brunei. This Pulau Janggi since then was mandated kept by the Maharajah Adinda/Arinda Families, NOT Kiram or Shakiraullah Families.
The PULAU JANGGI/Sepoh Janggi (from the world largest seed, Coco de mer) was the Sulu Royal symbol's as a proof that the Sulu Sultanate began from Sultan Mawalil-Wasit @ Raja Bongsu-I (in Brunei he was known as Pangeran Shahbandar Maharaja Lela) was the Youngest-son's of Sultan Muhammad Hassan (The 9th Sultan of Brunei).

Sultan Hassan eldest-son's = Sultan Jalilul-Akbar (Brunei Sultanate, descendant of HM. Sultan Hassanal Bolkiah nowdays).

Sultan Hassan middle-son's = Sultan Tengah (Sultan of Sarawak, but his descendent ruled the Sambas Sultanate till present).

Was believed the Coco de mer "Centre Part" was given by Sultan Hassan to his eldest-son's Sultan Jalilul-Akbar (Brunei), and the other "Side Part" was given to Sultan Tengah (Sultan of Sarawak -Maybe now its still keep in Sambas).

The Sulu Sultanate PULAU JANGGI was submitted by HRH.DATU/SULTAN ALIUDDIN BIN HRH.DATU MOHAMMAD SIE/SEH/SHEIKH to Brunei Muzeum in 1978 for "Safe-Keeping" NOT by the other persons! *(There also the other Sulu Sultanate claimants bring the FAKE PULAU JANGGI, for the purpose want to claims as the heirs to the Sulu Sultanate!)

IBNI SULTAN MUHAMMAD HASSAN (The 9th Sultan of Brunei).


*These article was writen for giving an informations about the "True Heir's And suppose the True Sultan of Sulu" nowdays!

HRH.RB-2

Posted by HRH.RAJA BONGSU-2  2004-10-20 2:39:16 AM||   2004-10-20 2:39:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Boy oh boy, Fred. You hit a major hot button with this one. Who'da guessed? I can shout, don't hear you!
Posted by .com 2004-10-20 2:48:11 AM||   2004-10-20 2:48:11 AM|| Front Page Top

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