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2004-08-08 Europe
Poland's Premier to Discuss Iraq With Bush
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Posted by Steve White 2004-08-08 12:09:31 AM|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 put more of the burden on Iraqi forces by early next year
This is essential and the sooner the better. Until Muslim Iraqis invest their own lives and the lives of their loved ones in their country's national security, they will see the lives of other "infidel" countries' soldiers as expendable. Sorry but that's the truth. Muslims are more closely connected by religion and ethnicity to one another[even to bad guys I suspect]than by gratitude to their infidel liberators.
Posted by rex 2004-08-08 12:46:40 AM||   2004-08-08 12:46:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 rex - It does seem that the burden has indeed begun to shift. Given how many Iraqi police / security forces actions have occurred lately, it appears that there is close cooperation with the US/UK military. At the least there is an Iraqi face out front, and it appears that when the threat assessment says they can handle it - they're going it alone or with only advisors with air assets available. The current dustup with Tater & The Tots (heh, AC!) seems to be the exception - with Sistani OOTC, well, time for hardball and speed. I'd say they are being helped and used wisely - since the handover. The Iraqi bloggers are starting to show pride in them - and they're taking serious hits to earn it. Hell, just standing in line to sign up is serious business.

It's happening, IMHO, and more often than not they seem to be acquitting themselves. The key allegiances won't ever change: family/clan/tribe... the next 3, flavor(of Islam) / Muslim / Iraqi, will flip around according to the deal struck by Tribal Leaders, barring any outstanding blood fueds, etc. So Allawi & Gawar must've schmoozed with tribal tea drinkers...
Posted by .com 2004-08-08 1:01:48 AM||   2004-08-08 1:01:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 You are right.com. It appears there are more Iraqis on the front lines as of late.

I think it would help Iraqi police and military morale if the US would pay them better, too. The $80 Billion approved for re-construction in Afghanistan and Iraq has hardly been spent because it has been so unsafe for contractors to do the work. So I think some of that $ should be spent on Iraqi front-line salaries. Last I heard the Iraqi police and military were not paid very well.
Posted by rex 2004-08-08 1:17:55 AM||   2004-08-08 1:17:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 rex - That would be an excellent use of some of that money! I thought the death benefits to the spouse decision recently was an excellent thing to have done. I will say that, given the risks, the jobs being offered in the police and various forces must not be that poorly paid - they line up every day and present an inviting target to the bomber assholes. Risk / reward common sense tells me it can't be terrible. But better pay and benefits would, indeed, be better - especially in the "quality" of recruits that would likely respond. They are going to need the best professional officer & Sr enlisted corp they can muster - and soon.
Posted by .com 2004-08-08 1:52:31 AM||   2004-08-08 1:52:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 He will tell Bush to pay more or I will withdraw the ploish troops.
Posted by Hellen 2004-08-08 7:30:16 AM||   2004-08-08 7:30:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Oh, Hellen! It just gives me goosebumps when you get all commanding and everything! Wooo!
Posted by .com 2004-08-08 8:34:03 AM||   2004-08-08 8:34:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 The Ploish troops? When did they get there?
Must be replacements for the Spinach or the Fallopians who pulled out.
See, I can speak troll.
Posted by tu3031 2004-08-08 8:40:20 AM||   2004-08-08 8:40:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 ...the Spinach or the Fallopians? LOL!
Love that, tu!
Posted by GreatestJeneration  2004-08-08 8:42:43 AM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-08-08 8:42:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Invasion of the non-English speaking trolls today.
Posted by virginian 2004-08-08 12:12:31 PM||   2004-08-08 12:12:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Jeez, somebody give Ellen another Cookie.
Posted by Shipman 2004-08-08 1:36:13 PM||   2004-08-08 1:36:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 I wonder if this deluge of ass biting trolls is financed by Sorros money and organized I can't admit Gore lost and I can't just moveon.org in origin?
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