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2004-07-06 Africa: Subsaharan
’Western Education, By-product of Islam’
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Posted by TS(vice girl) 2004-07-06 7:35:41 AM|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I hate to keep preaching this, but the muslims got their knowledge from the Byzantine (eastern Roman) Empire which preserved Greek and Roman thought for millenia.
Posted by Spot  2004-07-06 9:04:29 AM||   2004-07-06 9:04:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 muslims are now becoming underclass, not only politically which is more apparent, but even economically and professionally.

he left out educationally, culturally, socially and morally.


Islam, the world over is under siege

er, I think he got that backwards.



A society is clearly bankrupt when, to extoll its accomplishments, one needs to refer to what happened in the last millenium.
Posted by PlanetDan 2004-07-06 9:25:07 AM||   2004-07-06 9:25:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Any society which insists on repeating comforting lies to itself to make up for its abject failures is never going to amount to anything.

Once the Christian cultures of the Middle East were thoroughly decimated and reduced to pathetic dhimmitude, all Islamic accomplishment began to decline as well. Funny that.

There is a web page (which I can't remember now how to find it again) authored by an Assyrian Christian which details the facts of Islam's cultural and scientific piracy. It debunks the Islamic claims about their so-called golden age.

BTW, I do believe that the Hindus discovered the concept of zero. Islam just passed it along second hand to the West (who could actually make good use of such things) like everything else they claim to have discovered. They were only ever middle men who couldn't really make much with what they inherited. The zero myth is just another fiction which is perpretrated by Muslims and PC liberals on the unsuspecting.
Posted by peggy  2004-07-06 10:52:12 AM||   2004-07-06 10:52:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I don't personally know who invented the scientific method, but if it indeed came from the glorious Islamic educational past, then how do you explain the people of Islam today, who are so uncomfortable/unfamiliar with the scientific method that earned them the glory? When was the last time you could use "scientific method" to characterize anything coming out of Islam today (other than bomb building)?
Posted by jules 187 2004-07-06 11:43:00 AM||   2004-07-06 11:43:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 The great advantage of the scientific method is that it is unprejudiced: one does not have to believe a given researcher, one can redo the experiment and determine whether his/her results are true or false...The conclusions will hold irrespective of the state of mind, or the religious persuasion, or the state of consciousness of the investigator and/or the subject of the investigation. Faith, defined as belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence, does not determine whether a scientific theory is adopted or discarded...

From: http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node6.html
Posted by jules 187 2004-07-06 12:09:21 PM||   2004-07-06 12:09:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I wouldn't even entertain the thought that the Muslims invented the scientific method. What a joke to even suggest it.

The use of the method by scientists has resulted in astounding scientific acheivement in the West. It produces tangible and unmistakable results. If Muslims had ever had it, they would have outpaced the West to the same power that the West has outpaced the rest of the world. All the great scientific discoveries would have been made by Muslims long before Europe emerged from the dark ages. Its ridiculous for them to claim it for themselves. Gimme a break.

Whatever Muslims acheived came from their piracy of other cultures. As a civilization they achieved no greater results than the average civilization. They discovered a few things and they developed a literature and studied the stars exactly like so many cultures before them did. They passed along what they recieved and they just so happened to pass some of it to the West ie the names of stars and our numerals. But once our Western heritage was passed back to us, look what happened. Once that knowledge was back on its home foundation, the West exploded in unprecedented progress.

Muslims were at best caretakers. They never knew what to do with what they copped from others.
Posted by peggy  2004-07-06 12:12:59 PM||   2004-07-06 12:12:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Islam is a literal religion (at least today). Any evidence that contradicts the Quran is going to be discarded or "reformulated" so that the literal word of God is not disproven by science.
Posted by jules 187 2004-07-06 12:18:44 PM||   2004-07-06 12:18:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 sad to say Islam has degenerated to the point where easily disproven myths are accepted as fact and spread like wildfire thru the internet (e.g. the myth about the jews getting advance word and leaving the World Trade Center)

even more sad is that the Democratic party has degenerated to the point that similar myths are spreading in similar ways (remember the "harvard study on presidential IQ")- people in the demo bubble haven't been told its a hoax
Posted by mhw 2004-07-06 12:30:00 PM||   2004-07-06 12:30:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 All pipples who is not capitalist running dog know that eminent Soviet scientist Lavrenty Igorovich Igorov invent zero 22 years before decadent but oppressed Hindoos steal idea...
Posted by Fred  2004-07-06 7:52:28 PM||   2004-07-06 7:52:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Ima think zro is wrthlss xcpt when you lean it up agin sumpin on the port side.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-07-06 8:22:53 PM||   2004-07-06 8:22:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 nice Muck by you AP
Posted by Frank G  2004-07-06 8:26:21 PM||   2004-07-06 8:26:21 PM|| Front Page Top

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