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2004-07-02 Terror Networks

Al-Qaeda members donât fit stereotype according to survey

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-07-02 12:36:31 AM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Dan: What's your take on Sageman's book?

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2004-07-02 1:06:23 AM|| 2004-07-02 1:06:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 spoiled moderately rich religious fanatic losers from a culture that structurally can't make it in the modern world so let's kill jews crusaders infidels who are holding us back along with our insufficiently pious brothers--does the psychological term PROJECTION ring a mullah's scrotum

Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2004-07-02 1:07:43 AM|| 2004-07-02 1:07:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 BINGO. This goes in my bookmarks. This article finally gives a quantitative account of Muslim terrorist's socio-economic class that jibes with every individual profile I have ever read in the media. What mystifies me is that after writing such profiles, the media then insists that these terrorists are the ppor and downtrodden of the umma. How does the media hold such directly countervailing views without their heads exploding?

My take on the sources of Muslim terrorsits are:
1. Religious fanatics indoctrinated since youth that Islam must conquer the world, i.e. Saudi Arabia.
2. Muslims who were raised that Islam and Muslim society is the pinnacle of accomplishment and justice. But they realize, via contact with the West, that Muslim society is backward and weak. In other words, they are spoiled and arrogant boys who believe they have a Allah-given right to be top dog. They become radicalized and believe that by destroying better societies, the Umma can be the top dog.

Posted by ed 2004-07-02 1:30:01 AM|| 2004-07-02 1:30:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 In one of my first conversations with a Saudi back in '92 he told me, and I'll have to paraphrase it, that the oil was Allah's gift to the Arabs - an appropriate repayment for all those years of being Bedu wandering the wasteland. Immediately reminded me of a wacko friend who always thought it was his right to win the lottery. Same attitude. Same gossamer grasp of reality.

Posted by .com 2004-07-02 1:48:08 AM|| 2004-07-02 1:48:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I don't know anyone who bought the stereotype about these idjits being poor and desperate, other than the LLLs who want to pin everything on whitey's exploitation of the third world.

Posted by BH 2004-07-02 10:40:46 AM|| 2004-07-02 10:40:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Son of Tolui-projection is exactly right. I would add the mental affliction of the region, megalomania of martyrs.

Posted by jules 187 2004-07-02 12:29:53 PM|| 2004-07-02 12:29:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 But they realize, via contact with the West, that Muslim society is backward and weak. In other words, they are spoiled and arrogant boys who believe they have a Allah-given right to be top dog. They become radicalized..

I believe the operative word is envy.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-07-02 12:43:57 PM|| 2004-07-02 12:43:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 I think that JFM first described inone of his comments this over two years ago.

Posted by 11A5S 2004-07-02 1:11:45 PM|| 2004-07-02 1:11:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I saw somewhere a quote to the effect that the factor that best correlates with tendency for a muslim to become a terrorist, more than class, etc was how authoritarian the country of origin was. The more authoritarian, the more likely to become a terrorist. Not sure how they quantified that - anyone else seen that, or have links?

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-07-02 1:17:23 PM|| 2004-07-02 1:17:23 PM|| Front Page Top

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