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2004-06-30 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Steve 2004-06-30 1:09:42 PM|| || Front Page|| [11124 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Saaay . . . ever notice that you never see Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan in the same photo?

Naaaaw . . . that can't be! I mean, they're not . . . no, that would be silly. I mean, far-left anti-Semitic anti-American moonbats and far-right anti-Semitic anti-American moonbats saying the exact same thing? Never happen!

Posted by Mike 2004-06-30 2:31:53 PM|| 2004-06-30 2:31:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Just a few molecules of different in the DNA. . .
and BINGO!
You have the two of a kind which look different.

Posted by BigEd 2004-06-30 3:03:44 PM|| 2004-06-30 3:03:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Nader's very much a weather vane for the left, and this does NOT bode well for the country or the world.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-30 3:24:30 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-06-30 3:24:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 ever notice that you never see Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan in the same photo? Naaaaw . . . that can't be! I mean, they're not . . . no, that would be silly. I mean, far-left anti-Semitic anti-American moonbats and far-right anti-Semitic anti-American moonbats saying the exact same thing?
Fyi, Nader is Lebanese-American so at least he is voting in a way that is beneficial to his religious/ethnic loyalties.

Can you say the same about Jewish voters who traditionally vote for the DNC, a party which stands tall by the Palestinians and is quick to criticize Israel. By your standards aren't these Jewish voters being anti-semetic?

I find it very odd that some people will glibbly put down Pat Buchanan & the "far right"[stalwart Republican voters] as anti Israel or anti-semetic, but say nothing about the Jewish voters who consistently vote for the DNC.

You can be darned sure that Pat Buchanan casts his vote for the Republican Party EVERYTIME he votes. It's actions that count not words when you cast a stone against those you judge to be anti-Israel.

Nader's very much a weather vane for the left, and this does NOT bode well for the country or the world.
Perhaps American Jews might pay attention to your warning and stop voting DNC as is their wont.

Posted by rex 2004-06-30 5:14:26 PM|| 2004-06-30 5:14:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Can you say the same about Jewish voters

My guess is that Wolfowitz, Perle, et al wouldn't pull the lever for the DNC. My point is there is no "Jewish" vote -- Jews are not a monolithic entity.

Posted by PlanetDan 2004-06-30 5:27:51 PM|| 2004-06-30 5:27:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Nice try, #5, but no cigar. The Jewish vote has consistently been associated with the DNC. Sure there will be a few hawkish Jews who will vote Republican, but the DNC can count on Jews and blacks as their solid voting bloc.

1. Link
"Jews: Stand up for yourselves, Stand up for your people, Stop voting Democrat" by Daniel Weintraub

In college we are taught to open our minds, broaden our horizons, and analyze the mysteries of life. One of the great mysteries of American political life that remains unanswered is why Jews continue to vote and volunteer for the Democratic party in such overwhelming numbers. Depending on the particular survey, 50 to 60 percent of American Jews identify themselves as Democrats, while no more then 15 percent call themselves Republicans. As a member of the Jewish community, this leaves me pondering the question: why do my people vote for a party that causes us so much pain?

2. Also, the following research published in 2003 in Jewish Week:
Link"Jews still identify as Democrats" Jewish Week
...While we lack exit polls that provide a definitive answer about how Jews voted in the
2002 congressional elections, there is compelling evidence that they remain solid in their support for the Democratic Party. In pre-election polls conducted for Democracy Corps
in the year leading up to the election, only 21 percent of Jews said they intended to vote
for Republican candidates, a figure comparable to their preferences in congressional elections throughout the 1990s. And in a recent survey conducted by Steven Cohen for the Jewish Agency for Israel in cooperation with the Florence G. Heller/JCCA Research Center, only 22 percent of Jews said they intended to vote for President Bush in 2004, roughly the share of the vote that he received in the 2000 contest with Al Gore. Equally important, in the post-9-11 period, there is no evidence that more Jews call themselves Republican. A national survey of Jewish-American voters conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research in July found that 58 percent of Jews called themselves Democrats compared to 22 percent who identified themselves as Independents and 15 percent as Republicans. This distribution has not budged since the 1990s, which should not surprise us since partisanship is an enduring component of political identity...

Posted by rex 2004-06-30 6:04:52 PM|| 2004-06-30 6:04:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Rex: Nader gives an interview to the former Reformed Party candidate for president. It is the "American Conservative" (or something like that, low quality paper, so it at Borders).

Posted by 5442 2004-06-30 6:37:19 PM|| 2004-06-30 6:37:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 You can be darned sure that Pat Buchanan casts his vote for the Republican Party EVERYTIME he votes.

Really? Even when he was running as the Reform Party candidate?

I seem to remember Buchanan basically being hounded out of the Republican party for his anti-semitism and his increasingly loony ideas on economics. Dinesh D'Souza's "Go, Pat, Just Go" was an excellent explanation of how Buchanan had left the Republican party, and how good it was to see him go.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-06-30 8:34:29 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-06-30 8:34:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 As I recall Pat Buchanan was twice a candidate for the Republican presidential nomination and he served three Republican Presidents in the White House. It was only in the 2000 Presidential election when he ran on the Reform Party ticket that Buchanan voted for a party other than Republican. Perhaps I mis-spoke...I shouldn't say for sure that Buchanan will vote for a Republican in November. To my knowledge, Buchanan has not endorsed any candidate yet,but based on his past long standing loyalty to the Republican Party with the exception of 2000 and based on the fact that he is not running in the election under the Reform Party banner, chances are Buchanan will vote Republican again.

However, more to the point based on research I posted in #6, who do you think Arthur Sulzberger, Jr., the owner of the NYT, a MSM icon that often publishes anti-Bush stories, will vote in November? Keep in mind the powerful influence of the NYT who Fortune Magazine ranked NYT as No. 1 in the publishing industry in its list of "America's Most Admired Companies," for the fourth consecutive year...

Or what about the producers of Michael Moore's virulent anti-Bush film, Fahrenheit 9/11 ie Miramax bosses Harvey and Bob Weinstein... how do you think they will vote?

The following is an article written by Front Page.com by Lawrence Auster re: the Jewish voters' by and large long-standing antipathy for Christians and the Republican Party. He focuses on the immigration issue but brings up the aforementioned point as well.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13894
"Why Jews Welcome Muslims" By Lawrence Auster
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 22, 2004

...The real object of Jewish fears
First of all, as crazy as it may sound, there is something that many American Jews fear in their heart of hearts even more than they fear Moslem anti-Semitism, and that is white Christian anti-Semitism. Steinlight himself pointed to this phenomenon at a recent panel discussion hosted by the Center for Immigration Studies:
"Every high profile Jewish institution, whether it's a national organization or a major synagogue, is surrounded by concrete barriers to prevent car bombs exploding too close to the buildings. If you go through the lobbies into those buildings you have to pass metal detectors and double-doors of bulletproof glass. You are then frisked by security guards, mostly retired New York City police or Israeli agents, and then are scanned again with metal detectors.

"What is truly comic about thisâwere it not an instance in the theatre of the absurd, and were it not so appalling an indication of the kind of mass denial that is still governing major American Jewish organizations, including the one I used to work for that's currently meeting across the streetâis that the staffs of these organizations pass the car bomb barriers, go through the double bulletproof glass lobbies, get frisked, then go upstairs into their offices and spend their days talking about the threats posed by evangelical Christians...."

Jews' risible obsession with non-existent evangelical Protestant anti-Semites, combined with their obliviousness to actual mass murdering Islamist anti-Semites (whom, moreover, the Jews' favored immigration policies have allowed into this country) is an amazing phenomenon that we should not dismiss as simply a bizarre ethnic idiosyncrasy. It expresses, rather, a central preoccupation of a significant number of Jews, namely their corrosive apprehension of what they think the goyim might one day do to themâa fear they entertain despite the fact that, apart from some social exclusions and other ethnic prejudices that existed up to the end of World War II, Jews have never faced serious anti-Semitism from the white Christian majority in this country.
It's a long article but well worth the read. I happened to stumble across it today while responding to another discussion thread about the Canadian election.

In fact if the Jewish bloc vote changed from its traditional support of the DNC [ergo John Kerry] it could help GWB and the Republican party win. Once again to mock Buchanan and "far right" fundamentalists as being the great danger to Israel and Jews represents a disconnect with the reality that it is Jewish voters that consistently vote for the DNC, which is anti-Israel, and ot is influential Jewish leaders in America who are trying their best to unseat GWB from the White House and put in his place John Kerry "the appeaser" who stands for open borders and high immigration levels of Muslims. It's liberal Jewish voters who are their own worst enemy, not Pat Buchanan and "far right" fundamental Christians.

Posted by rex 2004-06-30 9:59:04 PM|| 2004-06-30 9:59:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I tend to be w/Rex on this; the majority of Jews due vote DNC as do blacks. Pretty silly when you consider how much the right backs Israel and how the majority of blacks tend to be more socially conservative then their DNC friends. I know that blacks like the dnc affirmative action angle so am not surprised they go dem. Why jews do the same is beyond me other then the pseudo social justice angle - LH, any thoughts?

Posted by Jarhead 2004-06-30 10:37:32 PM|| 2004-06-30 10:37:32 PM|| Front Page Top

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