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2004-05-29 Iraq-Jordan
Berg’s sister confused over Moore’s taped interview
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Posted by Phil B 2004-05-29 9:33:10 AM|| E-Mail|| Front Page|| [6494 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by Anonymous5037 TROLL 2004-05-29 10:37:01 AM||   2004-05-29 10:37:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Care to name these "experts" at Kodak? The "controlled media," of course, are hiding this, so anonymous speculation by conspiracy loons is a credible alternative.

Want speculation? Here's some that matches the proven facts:
Nick Berg: Michael Moore's secret cameraman?
This refers to Moore's claim that he had two "secret" cameramen in Iraq gathering dirt on the coalition, a claim he hasn't repeated since the Berg murder became public.
Consider: Berg had peripheral connections both to the 9-11 terrorists through Moussaoui, and to the peace movement through his, Berg's, father. He definitely knew Moore, who has uncharacteristically refused to release any portion of the 20 minute interview he conducted with Berg last December. Why was this interview done? At the time, Berg was a completely unknown radio tech and had not yet travelled to Iraq. Berg had the necessary skills, more or less, for the job, as well as a history of flaky adventure-seeking. There is no supporting documentation for his claim of seeking tech business in Iraq: no registration, no contracts, no significant contact with relevant companies and individuals from the Iraqi telecom or broadcasting industries.
Berg refused safe conduct out of the country from the US military. Why? His movements and whereabouts for the last several weeks of his life are unknown.
Berg's father is a big-league peacenik. He is behaving exactly like an enraged man who knows something about the cause of his rage that he cannot reveal. Could it be that telling everything he knows would destroy the cause to which Mr. Berg has devoted his life and sacrificed his son?
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-29 10:59:35 AM||   2004-05-29 10:59:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 (Yawn) Who let in the tinfoil cap brigade?
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-05-29 11:10:19 AM||   2004-05-29 11:10:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 No offense directed at you, AC.
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-05-29 11:17:36 AM||   2004-05-29 11:17:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Lefty conformists have concocted this lame "CIA did it" conspiracy theory to obscure their own complicity. One significant fact that is lost in all this: we have only Michael Berg's word for it that his son was "pro-war" and "pro-Bush." Another smokescreen.
WR, why did Moore interview Berg, of all people?
A job interview, perhaps?
Moore's gloating and boastful column about his secret operatives appeared on April 14, 4 days after Berg disappeared. In it, Moore gleefuly boasted that his agents were about to make spectacular and damning revelations about the occupation. Nothing more has been heard about this.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-29 11:18:51 AM||   2004-05-29 11:18:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Sorry, WR, wrote my response before your second message.
At the very least, Moore has an obligation to explain his interview with Berg.
This is beyond dispute: a young adventurer Moore knew disappeared in Iraq at roughly the same time Moore announced his "secret agent" project there, and that young adventurer later turned up dead.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-29 11:22:36 AM||   2004-05-29 11:22:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I don't remember him talking about a secret project. But then again, I don't pay MM much mind. If what you suggested is true then it was a rather damning expose.
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-05-29 11:35:40 AM||   2004-05-29 11:35:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Michael Moore on his secret agents
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-29 11:41:53 AM||   2004-05-29 11:41:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Hmmm.... Thanks, AC.
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-05-29 12:12:09 PM||   2004-05-29 12:12:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 No offense, but this digital watermarking reeks of craptastic rumormongering. Sure a physical recording device, whether a typewriter or a video tape recorder, can leave unique marks which forensic specialists can use to tell whether a particular machine did the work.

However, cd burners and video cameras, afaik, do NOT encode digital watermarks in their recordings. Once an image has been digitized, all copies are identical. We are talking files now, not physical media. There are techniques to apply a digital watermark to an image, but this is done after the signal is encoded.

The fact that you have spammed this same comment into another thread only adds to my disbelief. I do like the vague reference to experts at Kodak though. Nice touch. Of course, those folks tend to know more about film than digital products
Posted by SteveS 2004-05-29 12:12:54 PM||   2004-05-29 12:12:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Anons' post is in two different threads. Just another attempt to seed rumors on the net.
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-05-29 12:19:37 PM||   2004-05-29 12:19:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 AC, thanks for the link. MMoore, what a pile of shit. Pretty strange thing this Berg case. I hope some truth might come out of a Moore production for once.

A-5037, Do you think the CIA killed Berg? ...

Chirp, chirp...
Posted by Lucky 2004-05-29 12:34:15 PM||   2004-05-29 12:34:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 If this pans out, Moore will not only resemble Teddy Kennedy physically, he will have his own version of Chappaquiddick: causing the death of a naive young follower through gross negligence, then attempting to cover it up.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-29 1:54:28 PM||   2004-05-29 1:54:28 PM|| Front Page Top

Atomic Conspiracy, I think your suspicion is probably correct. It adds a new twist to this mystery.

If Berg was interviewing US soldiers and trying to collect critical comments, at least one of those soldiers surely reported him to higher authorities, and I would suppose he was placed under surveillance.

One previous article that I myself posted indicated that Berg had been climbing up onto a communication tower near Abu Ghraib at night. I think now that perhaps he was filming the prison, and I suspect that activity was observed by US counter-intelligence personnel.
Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-29 2:12:55 PM||   2004-05-29 2:12:55 PM|| Front Page Top

One previous article that I myself posted indicated that Berg had been climbing up onto a communication tower near Abu Ghraib at night.

Uh, he worked on telecomm equipment. That might possibly have been his job.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-29 5:13:53 PM|| []  2004-05-29 5:13:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Sorry, Robert, It's not very likely he was climbing on that tower at night just to work on it. It's dark and not very easy to see what one is doing. Besides, it's a good cover.
Posted by Deacon Blues  2004-05-29 9:15:20 PM||   2004-05-29 9:15:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 RC, its not clear he had a job. He was 'freelancing' which could mean anything.
Posted by Phil B  2004-05-29 9:27:50 PM||   2004-05-29 9:27:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Berg was released from US custody in Iraq on April 6 and then lived in a Baghdad Hotel, checking out on April 10. On that same day he talked with a US consular official who offered him a free airplane trip out of the country. Berg declined the offer, with the wierd excuse that the drive to the airport was too dangerous.

Four days later, on April 14, Michael Moore posted his claim that "I currently have two cameramen/reporters doing work for me in Iraq for my movie (unbeknownst to the Army)."

On April 20, rebels fired mortars into Abu Ghraib Prison, killing 22 prisoners. The purpose was probably to assist a planned uprising inside the prison.

Apparently at some time after that, the kidnappers offered to exchange Berg for prisoners at Abu Ghraib.

Berg's body was found on May 8.
Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-30 5:58:08 AM||   2004-05-30 5:58:08 AM|| Front Page Top

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