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2004-05-27 Iraq-Jordan
Gitmo General Allegedly Advised Scaring Iraqi POWs With Dogs
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-27 3:50:44 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I fail to see the issue.
Posted by JerseyMike 2004-05-27 9:52:56 AM||   2004-05-27 9:52:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Sounds like good judgement - he should get a commendation, not condemnation. The press is cutting the throat of their own remaining miniscule credibilty with their obsession. The American people will turn them off....
Posted by Frank G  2004-05-27 9:59:06 AM||   2004-05-27 9:59:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Mike's being very selective in what he quotes, and is leaving out important information. He left out this entire paragraph:

But Pappas told Taguba that "there would be no way for us to actually monitor whether that happened. We had no formal system in place to do that -- no formal procedure" to check how interrogations were conducted. Moreover, he expressed frustration with a rule that the dogs be muzzled. "It's not very intimidating if they are muzzled," Pappas said. He added that he requested an exemption from the rule at one point, and was turned down.


In other words, the dogs were to be used while muzzled, and when Pappas asked for an exemption, he didn't get it. That kinda puts a different spin on the story, IMHO.

Why did you feel it necessary to omit that paragraph, Mike?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-27 10:32:22 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-05-27 10:32:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 No bite - No foul.
Posted by RWV 2004-05-27 10:36:48 AM||   2004-05-27 10:36:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Thanks for adding it here, Robert. I agree that it is significant.
Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-27 10:47:56 AM||   2004-05-27 10:47:56 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I agree that it is significant.

Then why did you omit it originally?
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-27 10:49:45 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-05-27 10:49:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Because I cut a lot out. Now that you pointed its significance, I agree with you that I should have included it. Four eyes are better than two. Thanks!
Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-27 11:15:49 AM||   2004-05-27 11:15:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 (channeling JerseyMike)

One question about this article, aside from its fifth column intent - so what?
Posted by Raj  2004-05-27 12:55:12 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com]  2004-05-27 12:55:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Lest the milk of human kindness overwhelm some of you re: the use of dogs, muzzled or unmuzzled, to intimidate Iraqi POW's, here's a little eye opener about how man's best friend has been treated by the Iraqi people for the past kazillion years:

" Dogs do not live happy lives in Iraq. Considered “unclean” by Muslims and rarely kept as pets, most of those that you see are feral curs slinking through the streets late at night.

It's normal practice for Iraqi soldiers to cull the packs with machine guns. But the commandos of Saddam’s fedayeen, terrorist-shock troops organized in the mid-1990s, sometimes tear a dog limb from limb and sink their teeth in its flesh. Repulsive brutality, after all, is a badge of honor for these troops; this particular rite of passage was even captured on a government video..."
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3068456

Some famous philosopher, whose name escapes me at this moment, opined that civilization is measured by how it treats its animals. Enough said lest I appear too negative/pessimestic about the prospects of Iraq embracing democracy and taking its place with other civilized nations.

From: rex, dog lover extraordinaire
Posted by rex 2004-05-27 1:23:04 PM||   2004-05-27 1:23:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 FILTHY INFIDEL BEASTS!!!
Posted by tu3031 2004-05-27 4:34:40 PM||   2004-05-27 4:34:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 But since we have another point of cultural insult for the 'Raqs, then we will have to endure endless hand-wringing.

A Malinois munching on a 'Raq Insurgent who was shooting at our troops.

The problem is?
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-27 5:42:01 PM||   2004-05-27 5:42:01 PM|| Front Page Top

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