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2004-05-25 Iraq-Jordan

Sergeant Who Talked About Abu Ghraib Prison Disciplined

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Posted by Steve 2004-05-25 4:33:31 PM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 That is pretty easy UCMF stuff to prosecute, I would imagine. If you are a NCO, there is no excuse for this sort of ignorance.

Posted by anymouse 2004-05-25 4:58:20 PM|| 2004-05-25 4:58:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Methinks this Bozo was looking for some limelight and thought he could invoke the First Ammendment to get out of any repercussions. I guess he doesn't watch "Law and Order". BTW "limelight" comes from the Civil War when Union soldiers put concave mirrors behind burning lime thus focusing the light and creating a primitive spotlight. Anyone caught in the light was said to be "in the limelight".

Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-05-25 5:05:47 PM|| 2004-05-25 5:05:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 "I would like to believe I have a future in the army." Do you also believe in the Easter bunny? Apparently you were given and order that then promptly disobeyed that order and youâre a Sgt? Somewhere there is an ANOC instructor banging his head against a wall. Too bad they did away with corporal punishment by SNCOs, this guy needs a wall-to-wall counseling session in the worst way!

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-05-25 5:19:39 PM|| 2004-05-25 5:19:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 There's nothing particularly unique about this - private sector employees who talk to the press about company matters are also subject to termination. I personally know of two people who were fired for talking to the media. Private sector employees can talk about their lives outside of work, but information about their work lives belongs to the company, not to them.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-05-25 5:45:54 PM|| 2004-05-25 5:45:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 He can leave the military, and fulfull his dream. Senior Military Advisor to the John Kerry Campaign

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-25 5:51:22 PM|| 2004-05-25 5:51:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 on May 14, his company commander ordered him not to talk with anyone about what he had seen, he said.

The proper formulation for disobeying a direct order is "Sir, I respectfully decline to comply." and give a valid reason.

Not that it'd help much.

Posted by mojo 2004-05-25 5:55:40 PM|| 2004-05-25 5:55:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Too bad they did away with corporal punishment by SNCOs, this guy needs a wall-to-wall counseling session in the worst way!

Sarge - You mean they use to cut out tongues of people like this?
I do remember hearing about branding "D" on a deserter's cheek.

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-25 5:55:52 PM|| 2004-05-25 5:55:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Iâm not that old! It used to be a long time ago that NCOs were allowed to (nay encouraged) to perform corporal punishment. This was done in private and usually away from Officers and other soldiers, a small secluded room was perfect. After a troop had received his wall-to-wall counseling they normally found the path to righteousness. A troops rarely had to have a second wall-to-wall counseling session and the attitude was corrected. This type of counseling did not involve paperwork, so there was no blemish on the young troops record. This counseling is still employed by the South Korean Armed forces and they rarely have a discipline problem. Alas now they will have to courts martial him and give him a BCD or DD.

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-05-25 6:19:00 PM|| 2004-05-25 6:19:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "I knew what was being reported was not true."

I guess Provance is talking about his own statements here?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-25 7:16:23 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-05-25 7:16:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I don't understand why he is not being prosecuted along with the other clowns. There is no whistleblower protection in the service and there is certainly is no 1st Amendment protection. He might be well served if he read and understood the UCMJ before he delved into Constitional scholarship.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-05-25 10:57:49 PM|| 2004-05-25 10:57:49 PM|| Front Page Top

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