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2004-05-22 Africa: North
Omar El Sherif provokes Muslims once again
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Posted by TS(vice girl) 2004-05-22 10:31:52 AM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I understand that back in the '60's, Omar was a member of the Varsity Drinking Team with fellow actors Richard Harris and Peter O'Toole.

They could put away the booze, attract the beautiful girls, and raise hell in a European version of the Rat Pack (Sinatra, et al.)

I think Omar is cool but I have a rather stunted adolescent admiration for those types of things.
Posted by JDB 2004-05-22 11:03:53 AM||   2004-05-22 11:03:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "The movie had many phrases that can be described as humiliating to Arabs and Muslims. The movie also shows Omar wondering about the reasons why women wear Hijab,"

Next to open sexuality, doubt seems to be what Muslims fear most. With our success, the West has introduced doubt into Muslim minds that the Qur'an is the literal truth. I suspect their hysterics are simple emotional cover-ups for that doubt. It strikes me that the Al Qaeda types are trying to rescue the acceptance of the Qur'an as literal truth by making the rest of us submit. If doubt is genuinely accepted as a given by the majority of Muslims, then they have lost. I think I will doubt their religion a little harder... and send more porn. Why is the Dome of the Rock holy in Islam? Could it be it has nothing to do with divine revelation and everything to do with fact that Jerusalem was a holy site in two other religions and Muslims needed to obliterate those religions in order to establish their religion as truth? Politics, such a sordid low business. I wonder, could it be that Muslims are in such a sorry condition because they have turned their backs on the Holy Trinity and chosen a false prophet? Anyone feeling doubtful?

"At the end of the movie the Arab jockey commits suicide, which contradicts the beliefs of Islam."

You don't say...
Posted by Zpaz 2004-05-22 12:05:29 PM||   2004-05-22 12:05:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Apparently Muslims don't understand the difference between fiction and reality. Of course, they haven't for centuries . . .

Zpaz, they're just upset because he didn't take any infidels with him.
Posted by The Doctor 2004-05-22 12:32:04 PM||   2004-05-22 12:32:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Each religion has its own perilous failings. Mocmud never set forth any kind of principal on which you could base a "good" government. Therefore might makes right. Allah favors the winners.

Both Islam and Judaism fail in their inability to curb their fanatics. Christians openly sneer at the ignorant and fanatical among themselves--they certainly don't see them as role models. But a religion is judged not by its best and brightest, but by its fanatical and most ignorant.

Christianity with hierarchy is obnoxious, but without hierarchy fades away into ennui and superstition. "Christian agnosticism", or secular Christianity, has produced astounding advances, both socially and intellectually.

This leads me to suspect that God likes to be left alone.
Posted by Anonymoose 2004-05-22 12:43:22 PM||   2004-05-22 12:43:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hildago is reason No. 734572 why Arabs seethe. If LOTR had an Arab in it, the Arab Alley Ditch skid road boulevard freeway overpasss Street™ would have gone nuts.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-05-22 1:13:23 PM||   2004-05-22 1:13:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 If LOTR had an Arab in it, the Arab Alley Ditch skid road boulevard freeway overpasss Street™ would have gone nuts.

Don't look too closely at the Haradrim.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-05-22 2:30:16 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-05-22 2:30:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Robert-----Shhhhhhh! Heh heh
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-05-22 2:41:07 PM||   2004-05-22 2:41:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 "But a religion is judged not by its best and brightest, but by its fanatical and most ignorant."

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Why stop at religion? Why not hand out a class grade based on your LOWEST score? Why not judge YOUR entire life based on your biggest failure? why not judge a college by it's worst graduate? Why not judge an entire nation by it's worst citizen? And what's YOUR reason for not applying it to anything else but religion, other than to ensure that you don't have to acknowledge a Mother Theresa, as long as you can find a Paul Hill? And where do you put the 40 plus jailbirds I helped lead to Christ, and who now are leading honest lives? Where do you put the people who CLAIM to be Christians, but are as hopelessly ignorant of the details as you are, and thus live lives so contrary to its demands?

Seems to me you're not enunciating some grand epistemological principle, but making an excuse to not think and find the facts.
Posted by Ptah  2004-05-22 4:39:23 PM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2004-05-22 4:39:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 I met Omar Shariff a few years back here in Dallas--he was still handsome and completely charming.
He was here to play championship bridge, which is his second career.
Shariff stands for everything Islamists hate but need to embrace--films, success, working with Jews, capitalism and individualism, drinking booze, liberated women...and the buzz had it that he was gay.
But when I visited Egypt last in the late '80's, they claimed him as their "proud son."
Posted by Jen  2004-05-22 6:06:06 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-05-22 6:06:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Jen sez, "But when I visited Egypt last in the late '80's, they claimed him as their "proud son."

That reminds me of the wonderful Iranian actress (name escapes me) Oscar nominated for "House of Sand and Fog".

She had to flee Iran to work and was then praised by the scum who chased her out for getting the nomination.
Posted by JDB 2004-05-22 7:30:58 PM||   2004-05-22 7:30:58 PM|| Front Page Top

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