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2004-05-14 Iraq-Jordan

Berg offered a ride home by US but refused it!

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Posted by OldSpook 2004-05-14 12:04:42 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Leftists love to talk about class, I guess becuase they have so little of it.

Posted by badanov 2004-05-14 12:06:30 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-05-14 12:06:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Please correct my horrid typos (reversed characters and the Shift key pressed a split second too long).

Posted by OldSpook 2004-05-14 12:17:17 AM|| 2004-05-14 12:17:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 C'mon. Don't be bashing his dad. At least give him a mourning period. I saw Yahoo news this morning trumpeting the "Dad Blames Bush and Rumsfeld" headlines but it was too silly and sad to worry about.

Yes we know the anti-War types are spinning this but it's weak and transparently ridiculous and could not possibly harm Bush or Rumsfeld. "He died for their sins" was so over the top that it rendered the whole story absurd.

Posted by John in Tokyo 2004-05-14 1:10:35 AM|| 2004-05-14 1:10:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 What was more absurd was the fact that the family sued for his release from custody John. How long after Bergs release was he kidnapped? If you look at it the way his father is, the family is more responsible than Rumsfeld and Bush.

Posted by Charles 2004-05-14 1:26:51 AM|| 2004-05-14 1:26:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 A mourning period for decent human beings does not entail raving and foaming at the mouth like Howard Dean, algore or Teddy Kennedy. Mr. Berg is either mentally ill and should not be blamed for his idiocy, or he is just one more partisan democrat giving aid and comfort to the enemy as he craves face time on the talkingorifice shows as he seeks to whore his son's corpse as he greedily lusts after a BOOK/MOVIE deal. Screw 'em. Demented or goosestepping for his party, I have no respect, sympathy or compassion for such a creepy, little myn.

Posted by Garrison 2004-05-14 2:37:16 AM|| 2004-05-14 2:37:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I would offer another diagnosis other than mental illness, or idiocy. Here is a father who has outlived his son. Here is a father who was ambushed with news of the video by AP reporters. You and I may disagree with the form his overwhelming grief is expressing itself, but I see it as grief, understandable in light of the circumstances. So I will give him a pass.

I ain't going to be listening to him, but I am not going to condemn him while he is burying his son.

Posted by Anon 2004-05-14 4:26:32 AM|| 2004-05-14 4:26:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 A mourning period for decent human beings does not entail raving and foaming at the mouth

IT does if you are a member and strong supporter of ANSWER -- nor is whoring your son's dead body for your political gain.

The father has exhaused what would be acceptable for someone in grief/mourning and is now using his 'grief' as an excuse for his behaviour.

Posted by CrazyFool 2004-05-14 9:02:12 AM|| 2004-05-14 9:02:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 on the local Denver Fox News broadcast last night they said that Zacarious Moussoui had once used Berg's email address. They didn't give anymore info other than that.

Has anyone else heard a similar thing?

Posted by Yosemite Sam 2004-05-14 9:58:46 AM|| 2004-05-14 9:58:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Here is the story:
According to Berg, his son was taking a course a few years ago at a remote campus of the University of Oklahoma near an airport. He described how on one particular day, his son met "some terrorist people -- who no one knew were terrorists at the time." At one point during the bus ride, Berg said, the man sitting next to his son asked if he could use Nick's laptop computer. "It turned out this guy was a terrorist and that he, you know, used my son's e-mail, amongst many other people's e-mail who he did the same thing to," Berg said.
Government sources said Berg gave the man his password, which was later used by Moussaoui, the sources said. The sources said the man who used Berg's e-mail knew Moussaoui, now awaiting trial on federal charges that could bring a death sentence. But the sources would not disclose details of how the men were connected.

Posted by Steve 2004-05-14 10:37:45 AM|| 2004-05-14 10:37:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 if you are a member and strong supporter of ANSWER

Funny you should mention that, I was just reading Sgt. Stryker's blog:
I find it particularity interesting when I found this name:

Michael S. Berg, Retired Teacher
on an ANSWER website titled Signers for Statement supporting Cuba against Bush's attacks. In case you were wondering Nick Berg's father's name is Michael S. Berg and he just so happens to be a retired teacher.

Posted by Steve 2004-05-14 11:18:51 AM|| 2004-05-14 11:18:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Michael S. Berg, Teacher, Prometheus Methods Tower Service, Inc., West Chester, PA
is listed as a signer on another International Answer petition:
End colonial occupation from Iraq to Palestine and everywhere!

Posted by ed 2004-05-14 12:14:10 PM|| 2004-05-14 12:14:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I still feel for Nick's family, but how much idiocy was he raised on?

Posted by eLarson 2004-05-14 1:14:28 PM|| 2004-05-14 1:14:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 No one should have to die like Nick Berg died. And no one should have to go through the pain of burying a murdered child. And the people who murdered Nick Berg are monsters following an evil creed that must be wiped from the face of the earth-- completely and permanently.

That said, it's looking more and more like neither Michael Berg nor his son possessed so much as an ounce of common sense. The kid wanders around Iraq alone, with no bodyguard(s) or other protection; does so against State Department advice; refuses repeated offers to get him out of Iraq safely; and his father bitches that the government didn't do enough to protect him? Jesus Christ, WTF were they supposed to do for him, force him aboard a US-bound plane at gunpoint??????

I hate to sound callous, but if it weren't for the fact that this kid met his fate at the hands of Muslim murderers, he'd be an obvious candidate for a Darwin Award.

Posted by Dave D. 2004-05-14 1:41:03 PM|| 2004-05-14 1:41:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Nick Berg was an idealistic, confident, ambitious young American man, and it sounds to me like an apple that fell far from the tree. He was in Iraq trying to improve the lives of people who lived there and make a buck while doing so. Perhaps he didn't make the smartest decisions in terms of logistics and security, but I prefer to concentrate on the legacy of Nick, rather than the venom spewed by his appeasenik, lefty father.

I can't believe a father would politicize the death of his own child so quickly. Nick died based on the choices he made in his own life, careless (or courageous?) as they may have been. Unfortunately, his sad relic of a Vietnam protestor father has become intent on making Nick a martyr to ANSWER's socialist and appeasement cause. Disgraceful behavior. RIP Nick.

Posted by mjh 2004-05-14 2:04:16 PM|| 2004-05-14 2:04:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 It would appear my assessment of Mr. Berg as a "creepy, little myn" holds. As for Nick, if I were a Jewish man traveling widely in a war zone where civilians are the preferred game and a Jew a prize trophy for the Islamo-nazi terrorists who shrink from men toting firepower, I suppose I might be carrying a copy of the Koran and what has been alleged to be anti-Semitic literature. Or, perhaps, Nick did not fall far from the tree -- his father -- afterall. If Nick turns out to be a collaborator of the Jihadist, I shall be affected differently by the recalled images I keep from the viewing of his beheading.

Posted by Garrison 2004-05-14 2:44:57 PM|| 2004-05-14 2:44:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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