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2004-05-14 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Steve White 2004-05-14 12:26:19 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Steve, this dovetails with Internet Haganah shutting down all those jihadi sites.

A casualty of the cyberwar I guess.

Posted by badanov 2004-05-14 12:56:12 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2004-05-14 12:56:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Too bad, I'd want every American to see this four, five, six times.

You're joking, right? Reading descriptions is gruesome enough, but I heard just the audio of when they started cutting Bergs head off.

I will NEVER forget that scream. I have absolutely no desire too see the actually video.

Posted by Charles 2004-05-14 1:22:46 AM|| 2004-05-14 1:22:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Other videos like this existed long before this one. It's a Chechen tradition. I haven't seen this video, but I bet the decapitation was done in the same way that another Russian captive had his head cut off by Chechens: holding down the head with a foot and using a sawing motion. The video of the Russian PoW was even shot close-up, enough to see facial expressions. It's one of these things that you don't need to see ever again.
BTW, there's gotta be a Chechen connection to Zarqawi. Chechnya is only a hop-skip away via Iran to Iraq.

Posted by Rafael 2004-05-14 1:45:55 AM|| 2004-05-14 1:45:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 #4 Just about everyone I've talked to has seen some part or the whole video. I was studying for finals and by time I got to log on it seems that the video has been removed from all web sites. Can the video be accessed?

Posted by Anonymous4830 2004-05-14 1:59:25 AM|| 2004-05-14 1:59:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Yet another victory for al-Qa'ida. The vermin were protected by the delicate sensibilities of civilized people. As far as I am certained the hooded vermin who hacked off Berg's head are indistinguishable from the hooded vermin in Abu Ghraib prison. The US military personnel who abused and humiliated and inflicted a little pain on the vermin are HEROES who acted heroically.

Posted by Garrison 2004-05-14 2:26:31 AM|| 2004-05-14 2:26:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 The video shows Berg on his side and the method described by Rafael is the same except the foot on the head.

Posted by rich woods 2004-05-14 2:59:11 AM|| 2004-05-14 2:59:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 At the begin of the war there where pictures much more gruesome, who does still remember that Iraqi kid who lost his limbs and whole his family?

But go ahead bunch of weepers, feel the victim, soon the Johnnies will take another shamefull exit a la Vietnam anyway.

Posted by Murat 2004-05-14 3:24:50 AM|| 2004-05-14 3:24:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 It took 9 years for the Us to take a shameful exit Ã la of Viet Nam IIRC (against 7 for the french), there is still some margin. Anyway I doubt Turkey would appreciate such a terrible mess next door.
I remember the kid, though his name eludes me - I have trouble remembering arabic names-, mainly as a footnote I must confess (not too proud of my selectivity) but he was evoked here, how he got help from an hindu?, got prosthetics from the USA?, was finally adopted by a foreigner, a canadian or something, perhaps a physician?, I can't recall. I also remember the heartless exploitation of his tragedy by antiwar groups ("we've come to dis-arms Iraq"), a bit like you're trying to do here. What's happening to you today, you seem grouchy? Turkey lost a soccer match?

Posted by Anonymous4134 2004-05-14 4:44:03 AM|| 2004-05-14 4:44:03 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I was just thinking along similar lines, Anonymous4134: has Murat been dumped lately, or what? He's not the happy camper we used to know.

Posted by Bulldog 2004-05-14 4:55:44 AM|| 2004-05-14 4:55:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 there's gotta be a Chechen connection to Zarqawi. Chechnya is only a hop-skip away via Iran to Iraq.

According to the Beeb, after Afghanistan, Zarqawi was apparently chosen for greatness by AQ and his squad of jihadis were packed off to fight in Chechnya without him - not sure if the timings fit personally..

Posted by Howard UK 2004-05-14 5:11:00 AM|| 2004-05-14 5:11:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 If anyone really, really wants to see the video again, it can be found here:

http://www.ogrish.com/index2.htm

Best Wishes,

Posted by Traveller 2004-05-14 5:26:41 AM|| 2004-05-14 5:26:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Some troll has hijacked our Murats handle.

Posted by Shipman 2004-05-14 7:49:49 AM|| 2004-05-14 7:49:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanx Traveller, just looked at it. Stark reminder of what we're up against - evil.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-05-14 7:52:48 AM|| 2004-05-14 7:52:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Go here: http://www.620ktar.com/leibo/cr/berg.aspx

Posted by Anonymous4833 2004-05-14 8:35:31 AM|| 2004-05-14 8:35:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Some troll has hijacked our Murats handle.

No, Murat was always a troll. Remember his fervent belief that the Kurds had to be behind the bombs in Istanbul? Remember how upset (to put it mildly) he got as more evidence piled up that he was wrong?

Murat's a bigot, always has been. He's just having trouble covering it up anymore.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-14 9:27:16 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-05-14 9:27:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 I downloaded and watched it last night. It hurt like hell, but I hope many more people can steel themselves to do it. Our enemies do NOT want us to see this. This is the sh*t that is going to finally wake people up.

Posted by Cthulhu Akbar 2004-05-14 10:29:11 AM|| 2004-05-14 10:29:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 I just re-watched the video. I just noticed that the guy who starts the beheading is not the guy who finishes it and holds up the head. The guy who finishes the job is wearing a white diaper. The guy who starts the job is wearing a black one. The hand off is not shown, but the clock does skip a minute or so at the end. Also, if you believe the clock in the video, there is a 10 minute jump just as they push him over onto the ground and start sawing on him.

Posted by Zpaz 2004-05-14 12:51:54 PM|| 2004-05-14 12:51:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Cthulhu Akbar -
Our enemies do NOT want us to see this.

C.A. - The cabal : (CBS/CNN/NBC/ABC) Doen't want us to see it. It crimps the Kerry for President agenda.

The audio has been heard.

Pesky Hannity played the audio several times on his radio show, including for Sens Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman, yesterday.

John Ziegler (KFI-Los Angeles) played it twice, though it was at 10:15PM and 12:45 AM.

I also heard Michael Savage played it, though his egotism annoys me so I rarely listen to him.

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-14 1:02:41 PM|| 2004-05-14 1:02:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Perhaps they didn't want the world to see them have to struggle with a thoroughly bound prisoner. And they didn't want to show the sawing action and the would-be executioner saying "Hey, I'm tired. Little help?"

I can't say as I'll mourn the day I hear that little pus-bag Zarqawi is killed or captured. I'd bet on the former. Nice gut shot.

Posted by Anonymous4840 2004-05-14 1:03:35 PM|| 2004-05-14 1:03:35 PM|| Front Page Top

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