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2004-05-08 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

U.S. planning for Israeli strike at Iran

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Posted by .com 2004-05-08 06:22|| || Front Page|| [5 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Seems like the deadline for the Iranian program is fast running out, thank fuck the Israelis are up for smashing the Iranian program and rightly so the rest of the world especially Europe just sits thier frowning and shaking thier heads at the Iranians,bet thier real scared of the IAEA to.Looks like the unavoidable and nessesarry action is coming in the not to distant future..

Posted by Shep UK 2004-05-08 6:39:24 AM|| 2004-05-08 6:39:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I hope this planning includes tankers, not sure if the IAF has enough for the job.

Posted by Shipman 2004-05-08 6:56:15 AM|| 2004-05-08 6:56:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Mebbe we could restart the Lend / Lease program? Offer the Happy Family Pkg: say 6 F-117's, 6 B-1's, 2 B-2's, 2 AWACs (J-Stars optional), and 12 KC-135's? They can provide the F-15 aircap... You guys can come up with the Naval gear that would control the Straits of Hormuz and the Gulf. Coordinate with 50-60 TLAMs launched from the Med to decap and voila! Persians running Persia! What a concept!

tick... tock...

Posted by .com 2004-05-08 7:08:37 AM|| 2004-05-08 7:08:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 And just how are they going to get to Iran? Fly around SA? Iraq will soon be off limits. tick tock is right

Posted by Rafael 2004-05-08 7:22:58 AM|| 2004-05-08 7:22:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Iran's nuclear program is probably already too far along for Israel to deal them anything other than a minor setback. There are already known facilities in Tehran, Bushehr, Esfahan, Natanz, Karaj, Lashkar Ab'ad & Arak and I'd wager at least twice as many sites that they've not acknowledged along with perhaps a dozen operating uranium mines. That's a *lot* of ordinance. But the bigger probelm for Israel is that if they're serious about crippling the program they'd have to take out the vast majority of the scientists & engineers who are involved in it. Failure to do so would allow the Iranians to reconstitute it relatively quickly. Not a pretty scenario.

Posted by AzCat 2004-05-08 7:29:29 AM|| 2004-05-08 7:29:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I'm afraid AzCat got it dead on. It's going to take a major sustained campaign to do any good.

Posted by Shipman 2004-05-08 10:35:44 AM|| 2004-05-08 10:35:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 this is a few years too late to push them back like the iraqi's were in 82....but it is a step in the right direction

Posted by Dan 2004-05-08 11:18:04 AM|| 2004-05-08 11:18:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 The Europeans, as usual, have their collective heads up their asses. They don't do anything but talk about the Iranian's nuke program because they'd secretly like to see Israel destroyed, and they figure the Iranians could also use their nukes to blackmail, or even attack, America.

What they don't think about - typically - it that the Iranians and their Al-Qaeda surrogates will use nukes to blackmail/attack Europe. With a much better chance of success.

I hope that the Israelis, in addition to preparing to take out Iranian facilities, are also quietly letting it be known that the first nuke aimed at Israel from anyone - source unimportant - gets a couple of nukes dropped squarely on Mecca. If they let it be known that screwing with them, nuclear-wise, gets your "holy" black rock vaporized, Allah willing or not, it would be interesting to see who still thinks nuking Israel is a good idea.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-05-08 11:54:39 AM|| 2004-05-08 11:54:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Right on, Barbara.
What the stupid EUro-weenies don't realize is that Europe is a lot closer to missile range than the USA.
And we're getting SDI! (Neener, neener, neener!)

Posted by Jen 2004-05-08 12:18:11 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-05-08 12:18:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I'm afraid AzCat got it dead on. It's going to take a major sustained campaign to do any good.

Which is why serious consideration needs to be given concerning a decapitating strike against the Guardian Council. One well-targeted blockbuster during a full session of Iran's leadership would go a long way towards solving this problem. Yes, it would be an act of war. Aren't Iranian nukes the equivalent?

... If they let it be known that screwing with them, nuclear-wise, gets your "holy" black rock vaporized, Allah willing or not, it would be interesting to see who still thinks nuking Israel is a good idea.

Barbara has rather tersely summarized my own approach to a credible deterrent against Islamist terror. Sadly, Europe's continuing state of utter denial concerning terrorism's pervasive threat is nearly mandating unilateral action by the US and Israel.

Posted by Zenster 2004-05-08 12:59:05 PM|| 2004-05-08 12:59:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Rafael - well thier f16 and 15's can fly round trip - plus how is iraq going to be off limits?

the US military is going to be controlling those skys for a few years to come..june 30th is just a date for internal issues in iraq...we are going to be in the region for years..unless of course our troops are nuked or gassed then all bets are off...and tehran would be a radioactive dust heap..

actually the euros are starting to get the picture..they have withheld economic trade agreements from the mullas (agreements the euros wanted) because tehran thumbed their noses at them. it was actually a brilliant move by Bush to allow europe to take the lead. the iranians were duped into believing we were backing off and the euros got a strong lesson in power (they have none but economic and the iranians did not play ball). now iran will be a top issue at the upcoming IAE meeting in june. Just want the iranians thought they could avoid...things are going to get dicey for them..europe will wash thier hands and the US is in no mood to talk...

Posted by Dan 2004-05-08 1:07:44 PM|| 2004-05-08 1:07:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Your boy John Kerry down with your "Nuke 'em all and let Allah sort them out" plan, Zipper?

Posted by Jen 2004-05-08 1:14:25 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-05-08 1:14:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 zentser i believe has a very good solution - yes it would be an act of war but iran has been carrying out acts of war agaisnt us for years... a major strike like this could very well save the region from a major war where nukes are used.

Posted by Dan 2004-05-08 1:40:31 PM|| 2004-05-08 1:40:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 harpi tag team

Posted by fury three 2004-05-08 3:24:47 PM|| 2004-05-08 3:24:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I don't understand the questions on the flight path...? They've already established - it goes over the presidential palace in Damascus.... covert refueling in H3 in Iraq

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-08 3:35:55 PM|| 2004-05-08 3:35:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Â Rafael: And just how are they going to get to Iran? Fly around SA? Iraq will soon be off limits

No more so than now. Only the US Air Force or Navy can deny access to Iraqi airspace. The new Iraqi AF has no fighters at all.

That being said, I don't think a military strike against the facilities is planned. As noted above, the cancer is a little too widespread for a surgical strike. Were I a betting man, I would place my money on sponsored regime change.

Posted by RWV 2004-05-08 4:24:59 PM|| 2004-05-08 4:24:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Barbara: I'd hope the USA would (quietly, privately and diplomatically, of course) adopt the same policy you recommended for Israel: should a smuggled or otherwise-delivered nuclear device ever be detonated on American soil, the 'holy shrines' of the cities of both Mecca and Medina immediately become very shiny and highly radioactive glass. Bummer for the following year's Hadj, though...

Posted by BK 2004-05-08 5:22:00 PM|| 2004-05-08 5:22:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Iraq will be off limits because allowing Israeli jets to fly over Iraq will cause even a bigger political stink for Bush than Abu Graib. And after June 30th, the Iraqi government will have more access to information, making covert ops such as this even more difficult.

Posted by Rafael 2004-05-08 5:47:35 PM|| 2004-05-08 5:47:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 One way to place a financial dent in Terrorist Incorporated is cause a loss for Iranian OPEC oil exports.

Posted by Mark Espinola 2004-05-08 5:56:17 PM|| 2004-05-08 5:56:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 I wonder?

http://www.uoif-online.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=XForum&file=viewthread&tid=3770

Posted by Man Bites Dog 2004-05-08 7:06:50 PM|| 2004-05-08 7:06:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 U.S. analysts and government sources said the Bush administration has discussed the prospect of an Israeli air strike in terms of the diplomatic, military and security implications for the United States, particularly its military presence in Iraq and the Persian Gulf region

Oh? those were Isralei jets? Our radar showed they were some of those UFOs that have been talked about over Iran the past few weeks. I guess our equipment needs some adjusting. . .

I guess they were from Negev not Neptune. . .

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-08 7:28:05 PM|| 2004-05-08 7:28:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 SSSShhhhhhhh BE!

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-08 7:36:34 PM|| 2004-05-08 7:36:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Unfortunately I really see no way to prevent the Mullahs and Ayatollahs in Iran and elsewhere from getting their grubby hands on nukes eventually. Some how, someday it will happen. Either by the fall of Pakland to the Islamofascits, blackmarket weapons out of the CIS, North Korean exports, Malaysian or Indonesian programs or any of possible means. It will happen IMO. As far as I'm concerned our best freind in the Middle East should be India. An up and coming economy and a natural ally in the potential war in the future against Islam

Posted by cheaderhead 2004-05-08 7:47:35 PM|| 2004-05-08 7:47:35 PM|| Front Page Top

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