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2004-05-05 Israel-Palestine

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Posted by Lux 2004-05-05 13:59|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Weird. Why release him? I'm sure there is a good reason, anyone know (or have a good guess) what it is?

Posted by sludj 2004-05-05 2:05:37 PM|| 2004-05-05 2:05:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Israeli soldiers shot dead a senior Hamas militant leader, Imad Mohammed Janajra, 31, in an olive grove in the northern West Bank

Gee - just can be anywhere without the pesky IDF taking target practice. What's a homicidal maniac to do?

Oh - And another one bites the dust!
And another one bites the dust!
And another one bites the dust! . . .

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-05 2:07:06 PM|| 2004-05-05 2:07:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 sludj -

They gave him a one-hour head start, for sport...

He's well advised to avoid the olive groves. They seem to be focusing on the olive groves today.

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-05 2:09:00 PM|| 2004-05-05 2:09:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Maybe he convinced them he's more moderate than the other hamas guys and they're hoping he gains political power breaking hamas apart?

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-05-05 2:15:35 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-05-05 2:15:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe he convinced them he's more moderate than the other hamas guys ...

That's why the IDF toned things down some and gave him a bullet instead of a missile. Besides, it's hard to have a car swarm in those olive groves.

Posted by Zenster 2004-05-05 2:50:49 PM|| 2004-05-05 2:50:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 My guess is that the IDF for some reason cannot get at the current "hush hush double secret leader" of Hamas, but need a high-level target for retaliation after the next Hamas atrocity.

Kind of like how the Fish and Game Dept stocks the lakes with bass every year.

Posted by Carl in N.H 2004-05-05 3:01:29 PM|| 2004-05-05 3:01:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 maybe theyve turned him, and hope to use him to gather intell.

Or maybe they want Hamas to THINK theyve turned him, with consequences for anyone in Hamas who used to be particularly close to him.

Posted by Liberalhawk 2004-05-05 3:03:19 PM|| 2004-05-05 3:03:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Wonder if he ever got a chance to collect his longevity bonus? ;P

Posted by Desert Blondie 2004-05-05 3:10:07 PM|| 2004-05-05 3:10:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The people in this thread seem to be discussing two different articles and two different people, one whacked, one freed.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-05 3:21:39 PM|| 2004-05-05 3:21:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Whew! I thought it was just me......

Posted by Frank G 2004-05-05 3:27:14 PM|| 2004-05-05 3:27:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 This article talks about two people--the first posting was just a link without any text. The text (inserted later) only talks about Janajra (whacked), not Taha (released, not yet whacked).

Posted by sludj 2004-05-05 3:42:36 PM|| 2004-05-05 3:42:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Thanks sludj, that really clears things up, I think.

Posted by Steve 2004-05-05 3:58:36 PM|| 2004-05-05 3:58:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Yeah, thanks from me also - I hadn't yet read the article proper, so I didn't know it mentioned both of them.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-05 4:02:51 PM|| 2004-05-05 4:02:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Hey, Aris, how are those stadiums coming along?

Posted by Raj 2004-05-05 4:15:50 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com] 2004-05-05 4:15:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Ignore the troll, folks.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-05 4:37:25 PM|| 2004-05-05 4:37:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Isn't that called projection, Aris?

Posted by Raj 2004-05-05 4:42:31 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com] 2004-05-05 4:42:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 No. Your comment #14 is practically the definition of a troll, of the individually-targeted subspecies.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-05 4:59:50 PM|| 2004-05-05 4:59:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Ladies/Gents (Aris, Raj in particular hold off for a sec, answer my question) Mohammed Taha?
The guy that was "released". Have the Israelis got him yet. His one-hour head start has long expired. Any news reports?

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-05 4:59:52 PM|| 2004-05-05 4:59:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 I was just askin', Aris, lighten up...

Posted by Raj 2004-05-05 5:02:12 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com] 2004-05-05 5:02:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Don't troll for me again, in this or any other thread.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-05 5:14:01 PM|| 2004-05-05 5:14:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Bite me.

Posted by Raj 2004-05-05 5:16:57 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com] 2004-05-05 5:16:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#22
Hey, does anyone here know how the stadiums are coming along? Just asking. Aris? Anyone?

-AR

Posted by Analog Roam 2004-05-05 5:32:17 PM|| 2004-05-05 5:32:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 I wonder how much of a head start they gave him? A standing ten count is most sporting!

Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) 2004-05-05 5:34:56 PM|| 2004-05-05 5:34:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Yeah, how ARE those stadiums going?

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-05-05 5:37:56 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2004-05-05 5:37:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 AR, I think this BBC article will answer some of your questions:
Olympic workers 'risking lives'
Short answer: They ain't ready.
Which is why Katsaris is busy calling Raj a troll instead of answering the question.

Posted by Jen 2004-05-05 5:38:37 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-05-05 5:38:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Actually Sarge, as I said earlier, I thought Taha would have been given a one-hour head start, which has expired. SO lets follow the reports - and see how long it is before he is Yassined.
Drudge will have it first! Ha!

Posted by BigEd 2004-05-05 5:39:00 PM|| 2004-05-05 5:39:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Actually I was calling Raj a troll, because he is one, Jen. If you can't recognize that, then you are even blinder than I already thought you were.

On other news, a terrorist group has today thrown a handgrenade at the chief supporter of the "Yes" in Cyprus, threatening his life if he doesn't resign from the leadership of his party within a week, and threatening wider harm against all supporters of the "Yes" vote in Cyprus. Despite the murderous attempt with a grenade, authorities trivialize this as "not significant".

And in the meanwhile, little trolls still waste my time asking me those questions that I had already told them "I don't know and I can't find the heart to care in a world with much bigger problems at hand".

So go around, little trolls, trying to make me fret over the little playgrounds being built for the Olympics -- I have less trivial issues in my mind.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-05 5:47:11 PM|| 2004-05-05 5:47:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Aris, I'm not sure what you mean about the "Yes" thing...
isn't that referendum over?
That's a dead issue, isn't it? (the whole UN Greek/Turk Cyprus thing)

Posted by Jen 2004-05-05 5:49:04 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-05-05 5:49:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Ofcourse the referendum's over. So what? Do you think the 30-year issue has ended just by the failure of that attempt? Do you think that the little nationalistic fascists can stand the existence of a whole 25% percentage that said yes in a plan meant to unify Cyprus and give significant power to the Turkish-cypriot side? After all, what if the party that supported 'Yes' becomes the ruling party in 4 years? What if popular sentiment grows towards reunification again? -- after all much of the 'No' was because of a suddenness to the implementation of the plan that led to Greek-cypriot insecurity.

They couldn't have *that*.

But don't mind *those* issues, go on being concerned about the little stadiums and the little toys.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-05 5:55:16 PM|| 2004-05-05 5:55:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Aris are the bombs having any particular effect on the games... Ima understand there's to be a last minute inspection peek. What do you think?

Posted by Shipman 2004-05-05 5:59:43 PM|| 2004-05-05 5:59:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 Aside from trolls and the stadia they stalk, it looks like Israel has a bona fide "catch and release" program going, just like popular trout streams and bass fishing lakes.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-05-05 6:02:21 PM|| 2004-05-05 6:02:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 Shipman> What effect could they have? Greek anarchofascists keep on putting bombs that aren't mean to kill victims because then the public might actually feel that this is indeed terrorism and turn against them. Greek police keeps on being either too incompetent or too lazy to arrest them. Same old, same old.

The worry about the games is the Islamist fascists instead, and I'm betting the stadiums will have somewhat stronger security. As for the rest, you know as much as I do and probably more.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-05-05 6:06:12 PM|| 2004-05-05 6:06:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 Actually, AK the Cyprus matter interests me greatly and I blogged a post on the referendum.
I think that the Turks are illegally occupying the northern part of Cyprus and have been since 1974, when they invaded with 40,000 troops.
True story, I lived in London that summer and the Cyprus incident took up the headlines every day.

Posted by Jen 2004-05-05 6:20:02 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-05-05 6:20:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 Jen - Yep. I had returned from living in Germany just the year before. It was in the news here as well, even in the Durham paper.

I went nuts trying to find copies of the IHT (back when it was still independent) to get information from a perspective closer to the action. I'm sure the European papers covered it in great detail.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-05-05 6:44:57 PM|| 2004-05-05 6:44:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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