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2004-05-05 Arabia
Zionist remark could mean new rift with Washington
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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-05-05 12:06:52 AM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 US gas has already gone up 50 cents/gallon since December. Don't worry about the expense, Arabia going off line would probably cause shortages and rationing. All those foreigners working in a country which despises them, discriminates against them and occasionally persecutes them -- that never made any sense to me. Stock up on canned goods...
Posted by Tresho 2004-05-05 12:33:01 AM||   2004-05-05 12:33:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Charles Schumer: “If the Saudis are going to continue to deny reality and live in a dream world, then their regime will be short-lived,”

Clown Prince Abdullah ... bringing Chuck Schumer and Rantburgers together. The man's a miracle worker.
Posted by Kirk 2004-05-05 12:58:55 AM||   2004-05-05 12:58:55 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 We wouldn't need Arabia's oil if we had opened up the Alaska Wildlife Refuge Reserves. We have ways to work around the eco-system, yet we still can't open them up! And Saudi dependancy is the result.
Posted by Charles  2004-05-05 1:48:05 AM||   2004-05-05 1:48:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 [Troll droppings deleted]
Posted by Man Bites Dog TROLL 2004-05-05 2:03:11 AM||   2004-05-05 2:03:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Charles, bro, thats so un PC. But ask yourselves Burgundians. Who profits by our refusal to drill?

Follow the money!
Posted by Lucky 2004-05-05 2:20:18 AM||   2004-05-05 2:20:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Alberta tar sands. Don't forget the oil shale. We'll be waiting...
Posted by Attaboid 2004-05-05 2:23:06 AM||   2004-05-05 2:23:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Actually, if terrorists hit the plants, it might be a blessing. In the short term it would really hurt, but (hopefully) it would be enough to get us off the OPEC oil tit. We have a lot of new technoligies that weren't around during the 70s and could use them fairly quickly and then tell OPEC to go to hell.
Posted by LC Matthew 2004-05-05 2:38:21 AM||   2004-05-05 2:38:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Does Antisemite write Abdullah's speeches--or does he write hers?
Posted by BMN 2004-05-05 9:27:28 AM||   2004-05-05 9:27:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 We wouldn't need Arabia's oil if we had opened up the Alaska Wildlife Refuge Reserves

Reality check - the high end projection of ANWR production is about 10% of what SA alone produces today, and about 40% less than what we alone import from them. A start, but no replacement. Even if we get ourselves off the OPEC tit, we're still a trading nation and the rest of the world economy is going to remain hostage to them for a long time.
Posted by VAMark 2004-05-05 10:11:37 AM||   2004-05-05 10:11:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 ANWR would help, so would the petroleum reserve west of Prudhoe Bay, Alberta, etc. The point is that it will take a crisis like Saudi Arabia going down to wake us up, much less the rest of the world. On BOTH sides of the aisle, from Dimmis to Repubs we have seen ZERO leadership and commitment in getting us off the ME oil tit since the warning embargo of '73. And that started by our dear allies, the Saudies.

This country HAS to get off bottom dead center with respect to energy supply, and that is and will be a MAJOR effort.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-05-05 11:24:11 AM||   2004-05-05 11:24:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Crown Prince Abdullah was blaming “Zionists” and “followers of Satan” for recent terrorist acts in the kingdom. “We can be certain that Zionism is behind everything,”

Yeah, Prince, a bunch of them jooos are hidin' under your bed. Better call your footman and his broom to get 'em out of there!

LET'S DRILL IN ANWAR! NOW!
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-05 12:26:42 PM||   2004-05-05 12:26:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 ANWR and Prudhoe West would help, but a pipeline from them to the upper Midwest (with a spigot in Manitoba) would help as much or more. The natural gas sitting up north would make a substantial difference in the lower 48.

And then we need to be less squeamish about drilling just offshore in places like California, the Florida panhandle and Cape Hatteras.

And then we need to build a few new refineries, remodel some old ones, and reform the silly EPA gasoline formulation rules.

And help the Canadians develop the Albertan oil sands/shales.

And help the oppressed peoples of the Republic of Eastern Arabia, a 40-km strip of land ....
Posted by Steve White  2004-05-05 1:10:39 PM||   2004-05-05 1:10:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Plant out of Missouri that processes biowaste into petroleum products at an 80% effeciency rate.Get a few of these big mothers running and kiss the rag-heads good-bye.

ROTARY CLUB NOTES

The first commercial Renewable Environmental Solutions plant will be
operational in Carthage in about two weeks, Don Sanders, operating manager
of the plant, told Carthage Rotary Club Thursday night (August 7) at
Broadview Country Club.
Sanders said the plant, which will convert waste from the Butterball
Turkey Plant into renewable energy, is in the final construction stages and
once operational, ground will be broken at five other locations in the
United States and Italy. Changing World Technologies, which is in
partnership with ConAgra in the local plant, will build, license and operate
future plants. Plans are to build five plants a year.
The five plants scheduled this year are partially funded by the
Environmental Protection Agency. In addition to the plant in Italy, others
will be at Enterprise, Ala., Longmont, Colo., and Reno and Tahoe, Nev. The
Carthage plant received $5 million EPA funding.
The plant uses the same process as the earth did in converting dinosaur
remains into fossil energy. He explained how waste products from the turkey
plant that are not food products are processed through a depolymerization
technique using pressure and heat. A pulp-like mixture resembling pumpkin
pie filling is first converted to fertilizer, followed by a liquid fertizer,
fatty acids that can be converted to plastics and a breakdown into carbons
that eventually convert to diesel fuel and oil that can be sold to a
refinery. The final product from the carbon is coal. The only waste, Sanders
said, is water, which because of the process, is clean.
The plant, with a capacity of 200 tons of material a day, will not be
overtaxed by Butterball because of its seasonal operation which has periods
of low production. But Sanders noted that underground tanks of grease at
many area restaurants would provide enough waste material for the plant to
operate without Butterball's waste.
The speaker was introduced by Joe Adrian, program chairman.
Posted by Anonymous4152 2004-05-05 1:23:06 PM||   2004-05-05 1:23:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Last week I called Abdullah a good man who is out of his element. I take back the "good" Please feel free to use other adjectives, Ranters. The FM? Mr. Princeton? I guess Bernard Lewis was never one of his professors.
Posted by Michael  2004-05-05 2:06:57 PM||   2004-05-05 2:06:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Steve White---There is alot of work still being done up here in trying to get a gas pipeline out of Prudhoe Bay through Canada and on to the midwest. Market forces seem to favor Indonesia and LNG, but security would sure favor opening up Prudhoe gas to export.

Directional drilling has come a long way. They are drilling for gas down in the Kenai, Alaska area on shore and going laterally 15,000 ft, which is almost 3 miles. I could see that kind of technology being applied off the coast of California if you can overcome the the enviroweenies objections.

All this stuff needs to be done, now. We need action on many front, not just putting our eggs in pie in the sky baskets.

We ought to put a wind farm in Nantucket just to piss off Teddy Kennedy.

There was a windmill in Nantucket......
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-05-05 2:28:38 PM||   2004-05-05 2:28:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Why f-up more of our diminishing natural areas when enviro-friendly alternatives exist? (#13)

And isn't it true that Indonesia would be a good ally regarding oil. I know the Islamoidz have their eyes on it, sure as shootin'.
Posted by ex-lib 2004-05-05 3:06:43 PM||   2004-05-05 3:06:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Before you guys start calling me an environmental nut....why the hell don't we start getting more energy efficient?
Yeah, yeah, I know.....lots of energy locked up in the ANWR. Doesn't mean we all have to drive huge friggin' SUVs that are bigger than my old college dorm room (ever try to park one of those suckers? Damn.)
I'm probably not one to talk, since the Vette is a gas guzzler. I'm guilty as charged, and won't give the damn thing up even if gas goes to $5 a gallon.
But still.....wouldn't that be the best way to make the Arabs shut up? By choking on their damn oil in the first place? Not like they have anything else to offer the world.
I'm still amazed that where I live they don't do more with solar energy. Yeah, the technology so far on it isn't that great, but isn't that why you do research...to improve technology?
Hell, I just wish the Joooooos were doing something with that. That would really get Abdullah's panties in a twist, wouldn't it?
Posted by Desert Blondie 2004-05-05 3:25:46 PM||   2004-05-05 3:25:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Reality check for Abdullah: If the "Zionists" (Israelis) were in Arabia, you and you ilk would be dead, asshole.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-05-05 4:58:50 PM||   2004-05-05 4:58:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Alaska Paul-

Ted Kennedy IS the windmill in Nantucket ;-)
Posted by Anonymous4152 2004-05-05 5:50:13 PM||   2004-05-05 5:50:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 We ought to put a wind farm in Nantucket just to piss off Teddy Kennedy

We can tune these babies, we have the technology... make 'em moan We Float, We Float, We Float
Posted by Shipman 2004-05-05 6:04:15 PM||   2004-05-05 6:04:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 #17 - Necessity is the mother of invention. When we really, truly are down to the last few year's worth of light sweet crude, we'll get some fine new technology. I'm an optimist. What can I say?

As for your statement on SUVs... no one has to drive them. People drive them because they want to. It's really quite simple. They could all drive Priuses. But they don't want to.
Posted by eLarson 2004-05-05 7:00:08 PM||   2004-05-05 7:00:08 PM|| Front Page Top

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