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Smarter States Voted for Gore; Stupider States Voted for Bush
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-05-04 00:12|| || Front Page|| [11137 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Bullshit
Utah lower than Alabama? 21K average income for Alaska? No way.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-04 12:30:30 AM||   2004-05-04 12:30:30 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Peshawar.
Posted by Mahmoud, the Weasel 2004-05-04 12:34:12 AM||   2004-05-04 12:34:12 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Wanna buy some real estate?
Posted by mojo  2004-05-04 12:38:26 AM||   2004-05-04 12:38:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Three-Year-Average Median Household Income by State: 2000-2002 (US Census)

Alaska is #2 at $55,412.
Posted by ed 2004-05-04 12:39:48 AM||   2004-05-04 12:39:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 I believe this is an academi-lie, a politically useful fabrication inserted almost incidentally into academic material to provide a superficially credible source for students to stumble across during research.
It's a common enough device among lefty academics, though seldom publicized. A speech professor at the University of North Texas, Curtiss Paul Ramsey, inserted fantastic anti-American lies and historical fabrications into course material in the nominal form of examples, with no disclaimer or other indication that they were not factual.
Ramsey had studied at the Paleo controlled University of Nablus before coming to UNT.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-04 12:42:50 AM||   2004-05-04 12:42:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Oh, yeah, screw you Curtiss if you happen to read this.
Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-05-04 12:45:21 AM||   2004-05-04 12:45:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 IQ is a measure of test-taking ability, and heavily biased by cultural factors. Jews and Southern Europeans who migrated to the US at the turn of the 19th century scored at the borderline retarded level. Is there anyone who thinks of Italian-, Greek- and Jewish-Americans as borderline imbeciles these days?

Other interesting statistics include the fact that the Northeast has seen zero population gain for decades, as many of their residents depart for the South. Are these emigres reducing the average IQ levels of the South, and increasing the average IQ levels of the North?

Also, note that many of the worldbeating corporations in the country originated in the South. Walmart, which was founded by Sam Walton in Arkansas, crushed a whole whole slew of retail competitors in the Democratic states, and is now larger than all of the discount chains put together. Dell and Compaq of Texas were among the last companies standing in the PC world. Today, Dell is kicking HP's (which is located in a Democratic state) butt, and is on the verge of eliminating HP's presence from the PC industry. Indiana, a Bush state, is the home of Eli Lilly and Guidant, both worldbeating corporations. The list goes on and on.
Posted by Zhang Fei  2004-05-04 1:04:04 AM||   2004-05-04 1:04:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Average is very misleading. If you added say Bill Gates income and 10,000 full time minimum wage workers, then divided by 10,001 you would get an average income of about 10 million each, while the actual is 10,000 each. Median Income is what is important.
Posted by observer571 2004-05-04 1:31:44 AM||   2004-05-04 1:31:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 The census figures sue mean income. The mean incomes for 2000-2002 are then averaged to smooth out fluctuations in year to year figures.
Posted by ed 2004-05-04 1:39:09 AM||   2004-05-04 1:39:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 That's "use" not "sue".
Posted by ed 2004-05-04 1:39:45 AM||   2004-05-04 1:39:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Income is a good proxy for intelligence differences between individuals. It is a completely meaningless measure of average intelligence across a geographic area of any size. If it were (a valid measure) Singaporeans, Japanese, S. Koreans and Germans would have magically gone from being some of the dumbest people in world to some of the smartest in the space of 30 years.
Posted by Phil B  2004-05-04 2:19:53 AM||   2004-05-04 2:19:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Whoops. The census figures sue MEDIAN (not mean) income. Way past time to go to bed.
Posted by ed 2004-05-04 2:37:29 AM||   2004-05-04 2:37:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 I guess if our nation was smarter, we would have elected Al Gore to lead us in the WOT? Was that a white rabbit that just hopped by? :-)
Posted by Super Hose  2004-05-04 2:54:46 AM||   2004-05-04 2:54:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 whatever... this is true though - tennense the fricken home state of Gore who he was a senator for voted for Bush....now if the people where Gore had a leadership do not want him why should the rest?
Posted by Dan 2004-05-04 11:46:06 AM||   2004-05-04 11:46:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#15  We Tennesseeans didn't want Gore because we know him too well. We wern't dumb enough to vote for him for president.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2004-05-04 11:59:48 AM||   2004-05-04 11:59:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 This post is garbage. Utah is the smartest state in the nation as judged by advanced degrees per capita. It has also been judged to be the best governed state in the Union for most of the last two decades. Democrats are almost an extinct species there. The guy who wrote this article lied, plain and simple. Of course, he's from the Left so why should anyone be surprised at that?
Posted by mac 2004-05-04 12:01:10 PM||   2004-05-04 12:01:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 
#1 AC. I can understand the low IQ of Idaho, Utah and Wyoming. It's probably a reflection of the predominantly Mormon population that places a greater premium on their theology rather than higher education. I live amongst them and it's sad to see it up close and personal.
Posted by Don 2004-05-04 12:02:24 PM||   2004-05-04 12:02:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Don, IIUC, measured IQs are lower than the global norm in the Middle East too. Wonder why...
Posted by Bulldog  2004-05-04 12:08:40 PM||   2004-05-04 12:08:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 The whole concept of "smarter states" is crazy and pretty close to its step-sister, the concept of countries who "hate us" or "love us," as if a country is capable of holding an emotional relationship with another.
How in the h-e-double hockey sticks do you measure the "smartness" of a state?
This is predicated on the fact that the "Blue states" have a lot of the colleges and universities (I guess).
But are they counting students from other states as residents of those Blue States?
Or do they stay in the Blue States because they're "smarter?" Or what?
I think you can begin to see the problem.
In short, this is another mega-desperate attempt by the Dimocrats to convince the rest of America that they and their candidates have the "better ideas."
Al Gore was and is a moron and I still thank God every day that he was unsuccessful in his attempt to steal the 2000 election.
Posted by Jen  2004-05-04 12:25:38 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-05-04 12:25:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Let's not forget who voted for Pat Buchanan...
Posted by someone 2004-05-04 12:31:53 PM||   2004-05-04 12:31:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Wow I live in a 'Smart' State but Voted for Bush! Does that make me dumb? BTW I make over three times the medium listed for California. Since we kicked out 'Smart' Davis and Elected 'Dumb' Arnold does that change our IQ scores? This is too much for me I have to lay down and rest, my head hurts!
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-05-04 12:38:36 PM||   2004-05-04 12:38:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 As a person, who for 10 years belonged to MENSA, I must be a rennegade. I voted Bush. Yet most of the people who went to the meetings were Liberal Dems. It seems the ability do do verbal spatial and mathematical processes quickly takes brain cells from the common-sense quota, hence the higher the measured IQ, the further left on the average.
Posted by BigEd 2004-05-04 12:47:40 PM||   2004-05-04 12:47:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 You have to have a low IQ not to see through the ridiculousness of this bigoted claim. 50% of American's voted for Bush. It was a close race in almost ALL states.

I guess they think all this name calling is effective. After all, this kind of stuff worked for them in Kindergarten. What this shows is that the LLL is composed of adolescents who never grew up.
Dem's new slogan...
Your stupid, I'm smart..you smell like a great big .....
Posted by Anny Emous 2004-05-04 1:22:54 PM||   2004-05-04 1:22:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 PS...my father was also a member of Mensa. My brother in law ( a die-hard liberal) told me that in his last year, he was becoming more liberal. I pointed that out that it coincided with his increase in senility.
Posted by Anny Emous 2004-05-04 1:28:07 PM||   2004-05-04 1:28:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 A better way to look at things is by county. If you do that you'll notice that the Gore areas have high crime, high unemployement, high homelessness, and a far higher number of welfare recipients than the areas that voted for Bush.

What does that say? That they are more caring? Or so stupid they try the same policies over and over despite the proof that many of the policies do not work as anticipated.
Posted by Ruprecht 2004-05-04 2:28:10 PM||   2004-05-04 2:28:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Also Ruprecht the voter turn out in most of those districts is over 100%! Smart people vote more than once!
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-05-04 3:31:07 PM||   2004-05-04 3:31:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Maryland may be high on the list. Though it was not IQ or 'intelligence' that swayed L.A. East's vote for Gore.

It was 30 plus years of Democratic Governance. Recently broken by Republican, Robert Ehrlich's handy win over Democrat, Lt. Governor, Kathleen Kennedy Townsend.

Ehrlich also pulled in over 12% of the Black Vote. While Pundits had predicted only 7 to 9%.

If what the article says is true, Kerry and the Dems shouldn't and wouldn't be as concerned as they are right now.
Posted by Jack Deth  2004-05-04 4:41:30 PM||   2004-05-04 4:41:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Interesting... how do they reconcile these results with the LLL claim that Repubs are a bunch of greedy rich folk? Seems like they want to have their cake (we are smarter and richer) and eat it too (Repubs are The Man).
Posted by Cthulhu Akbar 2004-05-04 5:11:01 PM||   2004-05-04 5:11:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Maryland is #1 in median income in the nation. One guess why: highest concentration of federal government workers. They are NOT underpaid.
Posted by ed 2004-05-04 8:24:08 PM||   2004-05-04 8:24:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 I have a theory that a person's intelligence can be determined by their misuse of the words "you're" and "your." Previously, I had no evidence, but with this fantastic article that cites the correlation between republicans and lower IQs and the culmination of anny emous's (republican) post being "Dem's new slogan... Your stupid, I'm smart..you smell like a great big ....." I think the evidence speaks for itself. Political discourse in this country is already dead, stop flogging it.
Posted by someone else 2004-05-06 3:22:44 AM||   2004-05-06 3:22:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#31 Ann Emous's grammar and numbers are both suspect. I just checked the percentages of each state (Bush/Total and Gore/Total), from the numbers published by the FEC. In many (at least a third, maybe a half) states, the split was more than 10 percentage points.
Posted by Anonymous4752 2004-05-06 3:02:38 PM||   2004-05-06 3:02:38 PM|| Front Page Top

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