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2004-04-30 Iraq-Jordan
Kimmitt: Marines Not Leaving Fallujah
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Posted by Steve 2004-04-30 11:19:50 AM|| || Front Page|| [6 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Didn't I hear about "helpful" military officials before the invasion?

Could this Maj Gen Saleh be one of those?
Posted by BigEd 2004-04-30 11:42:08 AM||   2004-04-30 11:42:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Wonder if he is one of Chief Wiggles generals? Would be interesting to know if he knows this guy.
Posted by Sherry  2004-04-30 11:42:32 AM||   2004-04-30 11:42:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Read Belmont Club for background on General Saleh.
Posted by Anonymous4690 2004-04-30 12:07:42 PM||   2004-04-30 12:07:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 The bad guys still need to be killed. An Iraqi face in the rest of the town should be good for the after action stuff. But make no mistake, the bad guys get whacked. If not it's Gaza.

I also think the badies are suicide types who were to cause a Grozny type fight. If, as reported at Belmont Club (I love that name) the Marines have manuvered the enemy into a manageable kill zone, well I am impressed.

But please Mr Custer, don't let the bad guys go. Don't let the guys who paid the price to have done it in vain.
Posted by Lucky 2004-04-30 12:49:48 PM||   2004-04-30 12:49:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Lucky, you have it right. What percentage of radical Islamist jihadists, who think it is cool to sacrifice their children or themselves for the cause, will just change their minds and become responsible citizens if there are Iraqi faces in the uniforms that oppose them. Aren't the new Iraqi soldiers infidels too?

Posted by Sam 2004-04-30 3:06:10 PM||   2004-04-30 3:06:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 The most dangerous typical American assumption is that the Falluja investment is like an hour-long TV drama. That is, that the Marines are like actors, performing a "figure it out as you go along" script.
These are highly-educated, highly-trained personnel with college educated officers who have received a great deal of tactical, strategic and historical education. Every battle they are *going* to fight is looked at ahead of time from the perspective of every battle listed in Dupuy and Dupuy.

Everything they do is calculated. The enemy is left no advantage. Every mistake is exploited to the full. And it doesn't stop. Every evaluation of their situation fine tunes their activities.

The logistics are there, the intelligence is there, the discipline and morale are there, and the will is there. Practically speaking, it would take a well-armed force with perhaps 10-20 times their number to be a serious threat. These Marines are deadly, and again, they do not stop for commercials.

Their mission is clear, with or without friendly Iraqis: with minimum loss of civilian life, they will go through the entire city and systematically and thoroughly capture or kill every opponent and disarm the populace.

Everything else, including the diplomatic side, is just hogwash.
Posted by Anonymoose 2004-04-30 5:36:56 PM||   2004-04-30 5:36:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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