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2004-04-06 Iraq-Jordan

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Posted by Dan Darling 2004-04-06 12:33:21 AM|| || Front Page|| [11139 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Find where al Sadr is getting his money, given that his followers are a minority and poor.

Betcha it leads to Iran and the Revolutionary Guards. And some Saudi businessmen.

The whole place is a cesspool - and thats why they are fighting this so hard: the biggest threat to them is a successful secular democracy next door.

Posted by OldSpook 2004-04-06 12:54:26 AM|| 2004-04-06 12:54:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 For what it's worth, this link is information from the Iranian Student Movement, and they totally agree with you.

Posted by cingold 2004-04-06 12:57:36 AM|| 2004-04-06 12:57:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Al Sadr is calling himself the 'Mahdi' which means the chosen one, and his militia are called the Mahdis. I don't know the religous implications of the name, but there was a Mahdi in 19th century Sudan and the Mahdist army suffered what is probably the most one sided defeat in the history of warfare. In a 5 hour battle 11,000 Mahdists died whereas AngloEgyptian losses amounted to 48 dead and fewer than 400 wounded.

I couldn't find this quote through Google but I recall someone once saying about the battle that 'God may have been on their side, but the Gatling gun was on ours.'

Posted by Phil B 2004-04-06 5:46:28 AM|| 2004-04-06 5:46:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The Mahdi is the Muslim messiah who will rise to unite the Muslims against the evil Dajjal before the Apocalype. Jesus comes along for the ride too.

Posted by Paul Moloney 2004-04-06 7:43:34 AM|| 2004-04-06 7:43:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Heard this morning that as-Sadr is holed up in the main mosque in Najaf - the holiest of Shi'ite shrines.

That fits with the messianic theme.

Posted by rkb 2004-04-06 9:03:25 AM|| 2004-04-06 9:03:25 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 osama going be pissed.

Posted by muck4doo 2004-04-06 9:53:49 AM|| [http://www.peta.org/feat/hiddenlives/index.html] 2004-04-06 9:53:49 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 rkb - Interesting - somewhere in yesterday's series of stories regards Sadr I read that the Kufa Moskkk was the Most Holy Site - which surprised me because I thought it was in Najaf. I obviously need a program... so I've googled and searched and finally found, after enduring about 2 hours of pop-ups and animated insanity (they do love their doo-dads and JS widget-farms), "the list" (on the left-hand side) - and here they are:
0 Mecca (Makkah)
1 Medina
2 Najaf
3 Karbala
4 Kazimayn
5 Kufa
6 Samarra
7 Mashad
8 Qum
9 Damascus
10 Quds
11 Hard Rock Cafe, Baghdad
12 Coke bottle by the side of the road
13 Gum on the bottom of your shoe...

So, indeed, Najaf is Holier than Kufa. I propose a systematic approach: Mekkah is SMH (Shi'a Mean Holiness), thus Kufa is SMH-5. There. All tidied up.

Of course I'll wager you can find a competing site with a different list - or at least a differently ordered list. Lol!
8^)

Posted by .com 2004-04-06 10:11:36 AM|| 2004-04-06 10:11:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 what happen to jerusalim.

Posted by muck4doo 2004-04-06 10:18:54 AM|| [http://www.peta.org/feat/hiddenlives/index.html] 2004-04-06 10:18:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 .com, I was certain that Dearborn MI would have been farther up on that list.

Posted by BH 2004-04-06 10:31:24 AM|| 2004-04-06 10:31:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 14. Anaheim
15. Azuza
16. Kukamonga

Posted by Alaska Paul on the Road 2004-04-06 10:55:47 AM|| 2004-04-06 10:55:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 The Mahdi is the Muslim messiah who will rise to unite the Muslims against the evil Dajjal before the Apocalype.

Thanks Paul. I have been in a really apocalyptic mood the last couple of weeks. Maybe a few of these morons getting blown away might lighten my mood.

Posted by Phil B 2004-04-06 11:25:05 AM|| 2004-04-06 11:25:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Phil B - Take heart in Sadr's modesty - I find it to be an inspiration for lesser men, such as myownself. Lol! Feeling apocalyptic strikes me as both appropriate and timely. The time between now and July 1st (or shortly thereafter) should provide you / us with quite a number of glimpses... the Eye of Mordor, as JH puts it, falling upon deserving jihadis and ending the use of the Triangle as a haven for those killing our troops. That day will be something to celebrate, and we've finally taken that path.

Posted by .com 2004-04-06 11:41:00 AM|| 2004-04-06 11:41:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 .com, you left Pascal's Manale off the list altogether. No more barbecue shrimp for you, infidel.

Posted by Matt 2004-04-06 11:47:41 AM|| 2004-04-06 11:47:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Matt - Lol! Yeah - off their list, but my list looks like this:
0 Sonny Bryan's BBQ - Dallas - (closed I'm told)
1 Pascale's Manale - Nawlens
2 Marnee Thai - San Francisco
3 La Mesa De Capitan - Zihuatanejo - (closed I'm told)
4 Bucca de Beppo - Dallas
5 Four Seasons - Las Colinas (Dallas)
6 Milton's Delicatessen Grill - Del Mar / Solana Beach (San Diego)
7 Brennan's - Nawlens
8 Texas State Fair Corndogs - Dallas
9 Ruth's Chris - Everywhere
10 Seafood Market - Del Mar / Solana Beach (San Diego)
11 San Jacinto Inn - San Jacinto (Houston) - (closed)
12 Keller's Drive In - Dallas

Posted by .com 2004-04-06 12:36:20 PM|| 2004-04-06 12:36:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Now that's a list of places to take refuge in.

Posted by Matt 2004-04-06 12:47:15 PM|| 2004-04-06 12:47:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 muck4doo: what happen to jerusalim.

Quds, ranked number 10, is the Muslim name for Jerusalem. In case you're wondering why there's a Muslim name for Jerusalem, think of another holy city, the Orthodox faith's Vatican City - Constantinople - the Muslim name for that is Istanbul. Ephesus, Galatia and so on, no longer exist under their tradtional Greek names - all bear Muslim names.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-04-06 1:03:50 PM|| 2004-04-06 1:03:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Phil B. #3,
Your line is similar to my favorite:
"Whatever happens, we have got /
The Maxim Gun, and they have not."
Not a lot of daily-life opportunities to use this quote, though.

Posted by (lowercase) Matt 2004-04-06 1:37:10 PM|| 2004-04-06 1:37:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 From Belmont Club:
No other religion is so enmeshed in its cult of martyrdom. The Shiites believe that all of their imams after Ali died a sacrificial death. A small minority only acknowledges seven imams (like the Ismailites), while most consider themselves part of the twelve imam Shia. The twelfth in the sequence of their leaders is said to have suffered an unusual fate. Little Mohammed, born in 869, was hidden by his father and then disappeared. Most Shiites believe that the "hidden imam," or "Mahdi," will reappear one day and will take the helm of the party of Ali to claim the legitimate rights of its ancestors and lead his followers into paradise.

Posted by Frank G 2004-04-06 1:49:02 PM|| 2004-04-06 1:49:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 thanks for the info zang fei. one always learn something new evryday! personaly im thinking jerusalim sound better. quds sound like some kind of laundry detergent.

Posted by muck4doo 2004-04-06 2:53:31 PM|| [http://www.runningofthenudes.com/] 2004-04-06 2:53:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Thanks for the link MuckMan an excellent sight. I'll bet that hidden Mahdi is living with the twins in the Tower O' London. (Unranked)

Posted by Shipman 2004-04-06 4:25:29 PM|| 2004-04-06 4:25:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 #5 Heard this morning that as-Sadr is holed up in the main mosque in Najaf - the holiest of Shi'ite shrines.

Just how fucking many holy sites do they need. For a religon that views the mere sugestion of the image of the Prophet as sacrilge and From Muhamahds strict call for only the burial of the Low Grave, these clowns sure go in for ehgrandizement. As nuch as I would love to go to Jeruselem (sp) I recongnize the power of Christianity is in the message of the New Testament not in shrines or cathedrals

Posted by Cheddarhead 2004-04-06 10:54:40 PM|| 2004-04-06 10:54:40 PM|| Front Page Top

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