Article

2004-03-31 Home Front: Politix

GOP accuses Kerry, groups of illegal coordination

Archived material is restricted to Rantburg regulars and members. If you need access email fred.pruitt=at=gmail.com with your nick to be added to the members list. There is no charge to join Rantburg as a member.

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-03-31 12:08:46 PM|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Why complain about it? If it's okay for the Dems to do, then Repubs should do it too. And do it BETTER.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-03-31 1:04:49 PM|| 2004-03-31 1:04:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Yeah...I'm with B-A-R...I can vote w. my pocketbook too. Anyone know what some of these Republican soft money groups are?

Posted by mjh 2004-03-31 1:17:29 PM|| 2004-03-31 1:17:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 the dems mantra - why follow the laws when we can circumvent them in the clinton style.

says alot when Bush raises so much money from 2,000 individual donations.

Posted by Dan 2004-03-31 1:18:50 PM|| 2004-03-31 1:18:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 B.A.R , mjh: Gotta disagree here. This is also about rule of law and we are quickly losing it to mob rule. Too often we're seeing now lib dhimmicrats chosing to break the law simply because they don't like it. Then we get this mob trashing Roves house. This $h!t is getting way outta hand. Squash it. Now.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-03-31 1:50:53 PM|| 2004-03-31 1:50:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Rex, good point as witnessed last week by the Repub bloggers for Bush in Boston who were set on by Dimmy union goons. There is a LOT OF VENOMOUS HATRED out there. When you can call the President of the USA everything in the book to further your party's goals sometyhing is wrong.

Posted by Bill Nelson 2004-03-31 1:54:25 PM|| 2004-03-31 1:54:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 RM and BN, I'm not advocating breaking the law, this appears to me to be a circumvention or loophole of the law banning soft money. Likewise, how would those people have been prevented from storming Rove's house? The problem with that situation is not that they did not adhere to campaign contribution laws, but that they failed to respect private property.

I fail to share your pessimism. The Right and Left are not morally equivalent, and therefore cannot see a group of NRA members or Freepers invading someone's privacy and trespassing on their property to make a statement for the very reason that they respect these things, whereas those on the left do not.

That is the defining difference between the two sides of the debate in my mind. If conservative soft money groups were allowed to exist, then I believe they would conduct their campaign with the same respect and restraint that most of their activities are currently conducted, much like the left is conducting their campaign with as much disrespect, immaturity and ignorance as always.

Posted by mjh 2004-03-31 2:15:19 PM|| 2004-03-31 2:15:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Actually mjh, you make my point when you say "they failed to respect private property". This is called tresspassing, and it is a violation of the law. They did not respect the law, and they had reason to believe they would not suffer for their actions. That needs to change. You're correct on the loophole aspect regarding soft money groups. However, exploitation of such loopholes breeds cynicism. Instead of joining the mob, the GOP is doing the right thing in seeking shut it down.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-03-31 2:31:19 PM|| 2004-03-31 2:31:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 [Troll droppings deleted]

Posted by Franklin TROLL 2004-03-31 3:07:30 PM|| 2004-03-31 3:07:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 RM-
I may make your point, but I think you miss mine.

Clearly I agree that their trespassing was a violation of the law. What I don't agree with is that the ideological Right (conservatives, GOP, Freepers, etc.), in taking advantage of what are legal loopholes in a faulty piece of legislation seeking to tighten the government control of free speech, would be in violation of any law.

The exploitation of loopholes does not breed cynicism...the Left's ideology does (this is one of their mainstays).

Realistically, Bush cannot sit back and allow the left to take potshots while the FEC deliberates on the merits of his complaint. Action is needed, and talking in metaphysical terms won't cut it, I'm afraid.

I recommend supporting the NRA, as I know they are starting a competing conservative media outlet which will support 2nd amendment rights.

Posted by mjh 2004-03-31 4:23:16 PM|| 2004-03-31 4:23:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Too often we're seeing now lib dhimmicrats chosing to break the law simply because they don't like it. Then we get this mob trashing Roves house. This $h!t is getting way outta hand. Squash it. Now.

All very understandable, but when lefties engage in questionable behavior, it doesn't seem to generate as much of a buzz as when right-wingers do such things. Instead of complaining, I figure that the best remedy is to beat the competition at their own game, causing them to rethink their actions. Complaining about something, no matter how valid the complaints are, can be viewed as whining if it happens frequently enough.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-03-31 4:36:04 PM|| 2004-03-31 4:36:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Seriously folks, put your money where your mouth is and send some to the Bush campaign. Hard money spends just as good.

Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-03-31 11:34:50 PM|| 2004-03-31 11:34:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]

Posted by Joseph TROLL 2004-03-31 3:07:30 PM|| 2004-03-31 3:07:30 PM|| Front Page Top

22:18 Jughead
22:18 Jughead
22:06 Free Speech TROLL
21:49 Steve TROLL
21:09 JD TROLL
21:06 Free Speech Enforcer TROLL
21:04 Luger TROLL
20:57 James TROLL
20:55 Larry TROLL
20:53 Steve TROLL
20:44 Free Speech Enforcer TROLL
20:39 Steve TROLL
20:34 Fred TROLL
20:33 Reporter TROLL
20:31 Sean TROLL
20:28 Jones TROLL
20:27 Jack TROLL
21:13 GK
21:13 GK
21:12 GK
21:12 GK
20:52 Steve
20:52 Steve
20:51 Steve