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2004-03-29 Home Front: Politix
Low-life scum harass Karl Rove’s family at home
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Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-03-29 8:51:48 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 They want to play dirty, fine. Any volunteers for a Rove Defense Force?
Posted by Charles  2004-03-29 9:13:26 AM||   2004-03-29 9:13:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 While I really can't condone this if you glory in being the proverbial evil mastermind I find it hard to have much sympathy; at least not in the wake of Madame Plame being outted.
Posted by Hiryu 2004-03-29 9:17:33 AM||   2004-03-29 9:17:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Sign me up, I'll bring my big assed frysian horse with me. What a bunch of wankers.
Posted by Evert Visser in NL  2004-03-29 9:25:09 AM|| [http://chinditz.buzznet.com/user/]  2004-03-29 9:25:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 So in the last week, the Democrats have had their thugs beat up pro-Bush demonstrators and have threatened the president's political advisor.

Yes, these people need to be made an example of. I think assault charges are appropriate, as well as trespassing and criminal conspiracy.

We need to find out who paid for this protest -- who chartered the busses. Those people need to be stopped.

Oh, and Hiryu -- sod off. If Democrats like you keep making excuses for this kind of behavior, it's just going to get worse. If it keeps getting worse, people are going to get hurt. Reign in your hatred and stupidity for once.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-03-29 9:26:05 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-03-29 9:26:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hiryu, you did not read that much about the Plame-nonsense did you?

Oh and that: "proverbial evil mastermind" Please get a CLUE!
Posted by Evert Visser in NL  2004-03-29 9:29:46 AM|| [http://chinditz.buzznet.com/user/]  2004-03-29 9:29:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Hiryu--I am pretty g--damn sick of Dems and Libs calling Bush "Hitler" while advocating the same thug tactics Hitler and his miscreants used to gain power. If you and the other idiots out there continue to advocate crap like this, it's going to blow up in your faces. These morons have NO RIGHT to trespass on Rove's property and terrorize his family! How would you like YOUR family and property to be treated this way?
Posted by Dar  2004-03-29 9:41:07 AM||   2004-03-29 9:41:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Hmmm... methinks it's going to be a long, hot summer. The McAuliffe-orchestrated violence is only beginning, and I suspect MUCH bigger things are coming.
Posted by Dave D.  2004-03-29 10:17:33 AM||   2004-03-29 10:17:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Wait a miniute. These are farking SCHOOL BUSSES!!! Apparently from a PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT.

The protest was organized by National People's Action, a coalition of neighborhood advocacy groups based in Chicago.

Ok, even if this is only based in Chicago, was Chicago public school busses used for political purposes to haul Chicago 'students' to this event. Who arranged this or are the busses stolen?

Leaders said they want Bush to advocate for the Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors Act, a bill that would permit illegal immigrants who have lived in the United States for at least five years to apply for legal resident status once they graduate from high school. The measure would eliminate provisions of current federal law that discourage states from providing in-state tuition to illegalundocumented student immigrants.

Immigrant activists say that 50,000 to 65,000 ILLEGAL undocumented students graduate from U.S. high school each year and that many students can afford college only at the reduced, in-state rates given to legal residents.

Maybe because they are fucking ILLEGAL. I am sick and tired of people wanting to give legal status to illegal aliens who are breaking the law. What the fuck happened to the rule of law? These people are here in violation of federal law. They should have no privledge status such as 'in state tuition' and 'education entitlement.'.

Ok.. I met my ranting quota for the morning....
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-03-29 10:32:46 AM||   2004-03-29 10:32:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 "He also said, ’Don’t ever dare to come back,’ " Palacios said. "We will, if he continues to ignore us."

Americans have 2nd Amendment rights. I would shed no tears if Mr. Rove decides to exercise them should this Palacios cretin and her fellow swine have the nerve to return and engage in the same behavior.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-03-29 10:37:42 AM||   2004-03-29 10:37:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 What the fuck happened to the rule of law?

It's inconvenient for the political left. Therefore it had to be thrown away.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-03-29 10:40:01 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-03-29 10:40:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Come off it, Hiryu. These people want a bill passed, they need to talk to Congress. Neither Rove nor Bush makes the law.

"We want the DREAM Act, and Karl Rove is sitting on it," said Brenda LaBlanc, a member of Iowa Citizens for Community Improvement. What a dumbass.
Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-03-29 10:43:09 AM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2004-03-29 10:43:09 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Claymores will discourage that shit toot suite...
Posted by mojo  2004-03-29 10:54:14 AM||   2004-03-29 10:54:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Typical Dem style. Start a ruckus.
Posted by Lucky 2004-03-29 10:57:40 AM||   2004-03-29 10:57:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Hiryu is worthless fucktard. Democrats are immoral scum sucking pieces of shit. Tell that jackass Emira to get out of my fucking country. Why the hell should I pay for your children to have an education when you are a criminal? Illegally in MY country? If one of these assholes tried that shit at my house, I'd shoot them. But don't worry, I'd aim for their knees. Karl should have at least fired up his garden hose and hosed those criminals down. And yes, everyone of them is a criminal. They were all tresspassing. He should press charges.
Posted by AllahHateMe 2004-03-29 11:09:16 AM||   2004-03-29 11:09:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 Shock collars. Put them on all protesters and a transmitter on the person they're supposed to stay away from. The effects will be "Shocking".
Posted by Charles  2004-03-29 11:18:16 AM||   2004-03-29 11:18:16 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Hello-o-o-o-o! Hiryu is a valued member of the Rantburg community. He has a different opinion here, no probs with me. Let's be semi-civil, okay?
Posted by Steve White  2004-03-29 11:46:32 AM||   2004-03-29 11:46:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 yeah! what steve say! name calling is not good debate!
Posted by muck4doo 2004-03-29 11:51:35 AM|| [http://www.petatv.com/]  2004-03-29 11:51:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 To be "civil" to Hiryu, Joe Wilson's charge that his spook wife was outed and by Karl Rove have yet to be proved.
There is no excuse for terrorizing someone at their home!
Have these protesters done something radical like try to make an appointment with the White House to air their grievances? Or contact their Senators and Congresspersons?
This was criminal trespass and harrassment--no excuse for it, no matter what they thought the cogent "reason" for it was.
In fact, I think they did it knowing it was wrong.
Anarchy and the breakdown of a civil society where we have government through consent of the governed (by voting) loom.
Posted by Jen  2004-03-29 12:04:07 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-03-29 12:04:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Man I could think of a thousand ways to get these people off my yard. #1 Turn on the sprinklers #2 let the dogs loose #3 Paintballs #4 Frozen paintballs. Can't imagine that the police didn't respond to this? BTW I don't support that bill either and please, PLEASE feel free to protest at my house. I'll be waiting!
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-03-29 12:11:07 PM||   2004-03-29 12:11:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 I, like many others, would be exceedingly interested to know who bankrolled this. It goes far beyond civil protesting to criminal, and it would serve these loonies right if every one of them was sent to jail. Appalling behavior that I cannot find words - curse or otherwise - that would describe how disgusted I am. Yet this is a tactic of the left - claiming that the other side is facist, then using facist techniques. Poor Karl should have called the police and arrested 'em all for trespassing. And make no mistake about it, that's what they were doing. They were on private property, not public grounds - and so they have no right to claim it was "just a protest."

I am forced to wonder, if this "DREAM" (and let's hope that's all it remains, though "NIGHTMARE" might be more appropriate) actually goes through, what group we'll see the most of. Mexicans and Cubans are the obvious answer, but . . . okay, maybe I'm seeing conspiracies here, and after the reading I've done I certainly have no love for the religion, but does anyone else think we may see a wave of illegal Muslim immigrants who come here, get educated for free, and take up jobs without ever becoming registered? And who then try and influence society in the same way they're trying to in Europe?
Posted by The Doctor 2004-03-29 12:11:39 PM||   2004-03-29 12:11:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Hiryu is a valued member of the Rantburg community. He has a different opinion here, no probs with me.

Pardon me, but he was playing the "I condemn this, but..." game that we don't like to hear from Muslims in regards to Islamist terrorism. If the left keeps playing games like this, there will be violence -- either from them or to resist them.

I'd expect anyone of integrity to condemn this kind of crap, not to play "I don't condone it, but..." games.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-03-29 1:30:19 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-03-29 1:30:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 This was a stunt designed to (a) get them in the paper (b) get the attention of the wackos that think Karl Rove runs the government.

It will get this group donations aplenty, but will probably hurt their chances of having what they want made into law. Still, I'm sure they feel good, and feel like heros, and its the feelings that's important isn't it?
Posted by ruprecht 2004-03-29 1:57:07 PM||   2004-03-29 1:57:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 ...at least not in the wake of Madame Plame being outted.

Then shouldn't you focus some of your concern on Robert Novak?
Posted by Raj 2004-03-29 2:11:37 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com]  2004-03-29 2:11:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Let's be semi-civil, okay?

What's worth noting is that those "protestors" couldn't even manage that.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-03-29 2:19:30 PM||   2004-03-29 2:19:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 National People's Action appears to be a "community action group" based in Chicago - web site www.npa-us.org. They were in DC Mar 27-29 for the "33rd Annual National People's Action! Neighborhood Conference. LaBlanc and Palacios are "co-chairs" of the group. They seem to be channelling the 1960s-era "power to the people" bong smoke and bringing their "people power" to those they perceive as powerful is part of their shtick. Previous targets have been Andrew Cuomo, Phil Gramm and Alan Greenspan. They appear, based on cursory research, to receive some funding both from the United Way and from the Combined Federal Campaign, through the local groups that make up NPA.

It's interesting that they chose Rove's house rather than someone in Congress. It's a sign of just how far the irrationality over the Bush Administration has gone.
Posted by Sofia  2004-03-29 2:30:18 PM||   2004-03-29 2:30:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Some people have a hard time parsing my language it would seem. Are the folks who were blockading Rove's residence out of line; sure. Is Rove basically a bully who doesn't deserve a lot of sympathy; pretty much so.

Still, if this confrontation continues it should be slapped down in no uncertain manner, even if Rove is no a public figure who thus has a lot less privacy then the rest of us.
Posted by Hiryu 2004-03-29 2:31:09 PM||   2004-03-29 2:31:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Hiryu..."Public Figures" have less privacy under N.Y. Times v. Sullivan in determining libel and slander claims. This has nothing to do with property rights or criminal behavior.
Now bugger-off.
Posted by Sgt.DT  2004-03-29 2:50:45 PM||   2004-03-29 2:50:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 "Is Rove basically a bully who doesn't deserve a lot of sympathy; pretty much so."
As an average American, I don't have enough information to determine if he's a "bully" nor do I know if he deserves any more or less sympathy than any other human being.
You know, Karl Rove's never done anything to me and I'd bet he hasn't done anything to you either.
All I know about him is that he manages President Bush's campaigns and such.
But the Left has him targeted for hate....I suppose because he succeeds in getting Bush elected over and over.
"...even if Rove is no a public figure who thus has a lot less privacy then the rest of us. "
I don't know about you, buddy, and I'm no public figure, but I sure as hell don't want an angry mob outside of my private home banging on the windows!
How this group figured that Rove was "responsible" for not getting their bill passed and that he should hear about it at his home resembles nothing so much as a lynch mob!
Interesting that you should bring up Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame...Wilson keeps calling for Rove's head.. Just Because.
See above about Rove plotting successful campaigns for Bush.

(You oughtta quit while you're ahead, Hiryu, when Steve defended you.)
Posted by Jen  2004-03-29 3:10:41 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-03-29 3:10:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 It's time to call out the cast-iron skillet brigade. They're small, handy, and do one heck of a smack-down. I'm thinking of putting a six-inch skillet in my car from now on, just to protect myself from Dem nut-jobs. They're especially deadly if you use 'em edge-on.
Posted by Old Patriot  2004-03-29 3:24:28 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2004-03-29 3:24:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 "It's interesting that they chose Rove's house rather than someone in Congress. It's a sign of just how far the irrationality over the Bush Administration has gone."

And it shows the value of a public education. Apparently civics isn't taught anymore.
Posted by eLarson 2004-03-29 3:47:50 PM||   2004-03-29 3:47:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 eLarson. I know that History is no longer taught... too 'offensive'.... This also shows what kind of 'education' they people support.....
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-03-29 4:43:20 PM||   2004-03-29 4:43:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 Old Patriot - try a roofing shovel, I never leave home without it!
Posted by Raj 2004-03-29 4:55:23 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com]  2004-03-29 4:55:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 This worries me. When political parties start fielding gangs of thugs to intimidate opponents, the democratic process is gone. (Think Mugabe, or the French Third Republic) And this is only a little step away.
Posted by James 2004-03-29 4:58:08 PM|| [http://www.idontknowbut.blogspot.com]  2004-03-29 4:58:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 Um, I don't recall Hiryu being a loon. What's with the attacks on him?
Posted by Rafael 2004-03-29 5:08:42 PM||   2004-03-29 5:08:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#35 James: Maybe OBL was right. Maybe dealing with Islamist terror will prove to be such a divisive issue that the US will disintegrate. Part of me wonders if bin Laden isn't sitting in some compound in Saudi, drinking mint tea and signing checks for DU and MoveOn while he laughs his goat smelling ass off. It's money much better spent than on Islamic charities and madrassahs.
Posted by 11A5S 2004-03-29 5:24:35 PM||   2004-03-29 5:24:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#36 What absolute BOZOS! Rove doesn't decide this stuff. I agree with Lucky and ruprecht.

To eLarson and CrazyFool: Conservatives never should have let public education deteriorate. Our freedom depends so much on the education of the general population. Now the media is the "educator." No wonder people can't think and don't have the facts. Tax dollars and activism should be funneled toward education (in order to promote competition and attract quality teachers who can actually teach outside of the "politically correct" neo-facist camp), a stong and capable defense, and the intelligent preservation of the environment.
Posted by ex-lib 2004-03-29 7:08:00 PM||   2004-03-29 7:08:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#37 Hiyru, these people are way WAY out of line end of story. It’s just not the way things are done in this democracy. It’s the way the brownshirts used to do business in Germany, but not here in America. Next time I expect the police to busts some skulls and drags some of this 60s leftovers away to jail for trespassing, assault, and unlawful protest. And they were doing this on behalf of ILLEGAL residents? Add aiding and abetting criminals to that list of charges too. This is America not Nazi Germany! All are welcome, but please sign the guest book on the way in.
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-03-29 7:09:51 PM||   2004-03-29 7:09:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#38 ex-lib. I agree with you on education. Here in Washington State they just passed a measure for some 'charter' schools and already the Washington Education Association (i.e. the Union and its democratic allies) are filing suit against it. Stating that it will take money from Public schools. They are also going to make contribution to their legal fund mandatory (i.e. extortion) like they now do with teachers (you will contribute to the democratic party if you want to work in this state).

To everyone else... sorry for the offtopic comment :^)

BTW: Where the protesters wearing brown shirts by any chance?
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-03-29 10:05:19 PM||   2004-03-29 10:05:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#39 I'll bet the black helicopters ride tonight.
Don't fuck with The Evil Karl Rove!
Posted by tu3031 2004-03-29 10:39:45 PM||   2004-03-29 10:39:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#40 "Conservatives never should have let education deteriorate". Huh? WTF? Conservatives? It was liberals who have destroyed the education system in this country. The three largest impediments to quality education in this country are the NEA, the Department of Education, and the Dimocrat Party.
Posted by Denny 2004-03-29 10:46:37 PM|| [Http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com]  2004-03-29 10:46:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#41 Denny: Well they couldn't have done it if they hadn't been allowed to. What I meant was, conservatives let things in the field of education slide out from under them. And now we gots wut we gots.
Posted by ex-lib 2004-03-30 5:22:00 PM||   2004-03-30 5:22:00 PM|| Front Page Top

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