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2004-03-29 Home Front: Culture Wars
Seawolf-class USS Jimmy Carter to be christened in June
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Posted by Dar 2004-03-29 12:08:37 PM|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Does ship have a defense against an attacking rabbit?
Posted by mhw 2004-03-29 12:12:54 PM||   2004-03-29 12:12:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 She's probably a lovely boat, but please, that name! USS Jimmy Appeasement Peanut Carter?

How about renaming her USS Todd Beamer? USS Jeremy Glick? USS Johnny "Mike" Spann? Any of those would be more appropriate than Jimmy "Idiotarian of the Year 2002" Carter.
Posted by Mike  2004-03-29 12:15:52 PM||   2004-03-29 12:15:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 He never actually served aboard a nuclear submarine, however, leaving the service after seven years to run the family farm after the death of his father.

Ah, that answers the question of how this failure ever survived as a submariner, he didn't. While his micromanagement style would been perfect as a tech inspector, which is what a navy crew would be doing during construction, it would be a utter disaster as a commander.
Posted by Steve  2004-03-29 12:26:06 PM||   2004-03-29 12:26:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Does it run entirely on peanut oil?
Posted by Unmutual  2004-03-29 12:33:28 PM||   2004-03-29 12:33:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Does it run entirely on peanut oil?

Fuel = Billy Beer.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-03-29 12:36:08 PM||   2004-03-29 12:36:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 You know this sucker's going to sink...!
God help the USN personnel assigned to man her.
Posted by Jen  2004-03-29 12:38:15 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com]  2004-03-29 12:38:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Hope ye ole Seawolf doesn't suffer from mailaise.
Posted by Dragon Fly  2004-03-29 12:48:37 PM||   2004-03-29 12:48:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Hope ye ole Seawolf doesn't suffer from malaise.
Posted by Dragon Fly  2004-03-29 12:48:53 PM||   2004-03-29 12:48:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 mhw: LOL! ....perhaps they could adapt the Kaninchenverteidigungwaffe that the Germans deployed on their panzers.
Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-03-29 12:50:21 PM||   2004-03-29 12:50:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I think I'll wait to hear what nickname the crew comes up with for her; or better yet, what nicknames the other sub crews come up with for her.
Posted by Matt 2004-03-29 12:51:44 PM||   2004-03-29 12:51:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 modify it by inserting a special section that will add 100 feet to its length, and $887 million to its cost. It will create enough room for dozens of Special Forces and their gear.

Sounds like it's designed to evacuate possible hostages and run like hell.

Posted by Shipman 2004-03-29 12:53:29 PM||   2004-03-29 12:53:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I wait for the day the headline reads "The Jimmy Carter launched cruise missiles today at XXXX". I bet that will get old Carters blood pressure up.
Posted by Patrick 2004-03-29 1:25:42 PM||   2004-03-29 1:25:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Difference between the man and the machine:
One has a Nobel Peace Prize--the other enforces peace nobly.
Posted by Dar  2004-03-29 1:28:42 PM||   2004-03-29 1:28:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Steve, I think Carter actually sailed on diesel boats. USNA grads can't do 7 years of shore duty unless tehy play football.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-03-29 1:28:54 PM||   2004-03-29 1:28:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 If this sub is true to its namesake, it will launch one unsuccesful Special Forces raid and be retired after four years for being ineffective and damaging to the security of the U.S.
Posted by Tibor 2004-03-29 1:38:33 PM||   2004-03-29 1:38:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 They should have named a laundry ship after him instead (like the Simpson's did to Mondale).
Posted by ruprecht 2004-03-29 1:49:58 PM||   2004-03-29 1:49:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 His one and only time on a submarine was a ride on the Los Angeles (poor bastards). The Peanut was one of Admiral Rickover's staff (which is probably where he learned to micro manage).

He NEVER qualified on ANY boat. He IS NOT A SUBMARINER. (we don't give out honorary dolphins, you earn them or you don't have them)...

Rick T
MM1(SS)
USS Omaha SSN-692 Plankowner
Posted by Rick T  2004-03-29 2:06:34 PM||   2004-03-29 2:06:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 I stand corrected. Maybe he was on the chess team.
Posted by Anonymous3967 2004-03-29 2:41:26 PM||   2004-03-29 2:41:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 He isn't very bright for an "engineer" either. Was he really a nuclear engineer, or was that a fanciful stretch of the truth too?
Posted by Tom 2004-03-29 2:57:12 PM||   2004-03-29 2:57:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 The Carter Library has this to say about Carter's sub service:

17 Dec 1948-1 Feb 1951: Assigned to USS POMFRET (SS 391) , a diesel boat. Received his dolphins 4 Feb 1950.

10 Nov 1951-16 Oct 1952: Assigned to USS K-1 (SS K-1), , apparently the first of an intended new class of subs.

16 Oct 1952 - 9 Feb 1953: Duty under instruction with Atomic Energy Commission to qualify as an engineering officer for nuclear submarine power plants. Left the service before training completed.

Jimmy initially was commissioned a surface line officer and served on two battleships but never qualified as a Surface Warfare Officer (SWO). All in all, his naval career seems to demonstrate the same stellar performance, aggressiveness and leadership we saw during his term as President ...
Posted by Sofia  2004-03-29 3:05:21 PM||   2004-03-29 3:05:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 So I take it that he had less than four months of incomplete engineering training, then left the service and claimed to be a former nuclear engineer. He's a liar in addition to his other shortcomings.
Posted by Tom 2004-03-29 3:10:14 PM||   2004-03-29 3:10:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 All in all, his naval career seems to demonstrate the same stellar performance, aggressiveness and leadership we saw during his term as President ...

You are way too kind.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-03-29 4:05:35 PM||   2004-03-29 4:05:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 Aboard the Jimmy Peanut, sometime in the not-too-distant future:

"Captain, we dare not fire another torpedo; that rabbit's dynamite!"
Posted by Mike  2004-03-29 4:18:02 PM||   2004-03-29 4:18:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Tom says:
He's a liar in addition to his other shortcomings.
Well, yeah. And not just about this, either.

Any chance we can get him to christen the boat by tying him to the bow and submerging?
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-03-29 4:56:03 PM||   2004-03-29 4:56:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 He's a liar in addition to his other shortcomings

Told ya. Can't cook either.
Posted by Lester Maddox 2004-03-29 5:37:58 PM||   2004-03-29 5:37:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 I think it's funny how the "peace" -loving Dems change tune when the chance to become "famous" roles around. "They're going to name a ship of war after me? Okeedokee! Count me in!"

Good thing they didn't name one for Bill Clinton. After the Monica Lewinski trist, that would be just too weird a visual.
Posted by ex-lib 2004-03-29 6:41:38 PM||   2004-03-29 6:41:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 Told ya. Can't cook either.

No, but he can make a Peanut Butter sandwhich. However, the sandwhich tens to get up and enslave other food products under Sharia law.
Posted by Charles  2004-03-29 6:42:25 PM||   2004-03-29 6:42:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Tom, I don't have a reference handy, but I understand that he left the training program after there was some sort of accident and he was exposed past his career quota of radiation. This may explain his aversion to nuclear power during his administration. (For the record, though, I disagree with his apparent position on nuclear power; the long explanation would be an essay in itself.)
Posted by Phil Fraering 2004-03-29 7:30:54 PM|| [http://newsfromthefridge.typepad.com]  2004-03-29 7:30:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Sofia, thanks for the research and info. So he is a Submariner, but not a Nuc power officer. I found it interesting that his bio shows a BS degree from Annapolis, but not his major..... At least it wasn't a BA......
Posted by Rick T  2004-03-29 7:32:14 PM||   2004-03-29 7:32:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Confession time: I saw the headline, but didn't read the article. I have not read any of the comments. I note, however, that 27 comments or so have already been posted. If what you read now is a rehash of a particular post above, then I apologize. Having said this, let me make my opinion known: If there is ANY way to prevent a ship from being named after Jimmy Carter, then please advise ASAP. Who, pray tell, in there right mind, would wish to be assigned to a ship named after Carter? I believe the man was on watch when the War on Terror began in November, 1979. I say to you and am prepared to debate the issue that radical Islamism reared it's head in Tehran, Iran in November of 1979. Consider a moment what SHOULD have been response to the Islamic radicals in Tehran in November, 1979 (but wasn't): Release all American hostages unharmed within 24 hours OR your holiest cities will be annihlated each hour ONE by ONE. Would the Soviets have risked the health of Moscow over this priniple? No. Would the Chi-coms have risked the health of Bejing? No. Screw the UN and Europe. Persians (who I have an abidding respect for) would have been destroyed but terrorism would have been set back 100 years and I submit there never would have been a 9/11.
Posted by Mark  2004-03-29 7:43:23 PM||   2004-03-29 7:43:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#31 Good thing they didn't name one for Bill Clinton.

Some sailor did a satire a few years back about the Navy commissioning a Maternal Support Ship so all the single-mom and pregnant sailors could deploy with their ships. Christened the USS William J. Clinton, natch.
Posted by Pappy 2004-03-29 7:59:21 PM||   2004-03-29 7:59:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#32 I think it would be nice to get a bunch of volunteers guys and gals together and charge admission and blog it out and raise some money from earth friendly bizness and put together a really nice wooden hospital ship and name it the Jimmuah Catuh and give it to Haiti.
Posted by Shipman 2004-03-29 8:04:00 PM||   2004-03-29 8:04:00 PM|| Front Page Top

#33 If this loser rates it, when's Nixon getting his boat?
hahahahahahahahahaha...
Posted by tu3031 2004-03-29 8:21:02 PM||   2004-03-29 8:21:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#34 Too much radiation during training? Hmmm.. I guess that explains Amy.
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2004-03-29 9:46:52 PM||   2004-03-29 9:46:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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