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2004-03-26 Britain
Former Head of Church of England: Muslim Culture stinks
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Posted by Bulldog 2004-03-26 7:29:24 AM|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Moderate muslims (at least in the U.S.) are seen as giving tacit approval or turning a blind eye to terrorist attacks, in some cases like in Dearborn, Michigan where I grew up near it seems to be more then just tacit. Until they fully and completely condemn attacks, and put their adopted country which they are citizens of on par w/their faith - they will never be trusted.
Posted by Jarhead 2004-03-26 8:24:41 AM||   2004-03-26 8:24:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 [Off-topic or abusive comments deleted]
Posted by Anonymous TROLL 2004-03-26 8:44:39 AM||   2004-03-26 8:44:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Hear hear, Jarhead. Well said.
Posted by Howard UK 2004-03-26 8:52:00 AM||   2004-03-26 8:52:00 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Moderate Muslims would be wise to act now, while there is goodwill between us.

I find myself, daily, being forced to remind myself that most Muslims are just ordinary people.

Still - I find also myself daily becoming more and more resentful that they take the liberties that we have offered them and shove them back in our face. If we had restricted them from coming here, we would not have armed guards and security searches everywhere we go. We'd be more concerned with schools and parks and health care than our survival.

Their refusal to stand up and fight for the freedoms we have graciously provided them makes me feel more and more bitter every day. They have RUINED our free society with their backwater beliefs.

I know that people are people. I know that. And many Muslims are good people. But as a whole, they have brought us nothing but armed guards and restrictions on the very freedoms we have provided to them.
Posted by B 2004-03-26 8:55:26 AM||   2004-03-26 8:55:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 They may be a pain i the arse but they've brought us curry don't forget. Mmmmmmm Chicken Kashmiri tonight...
Posted by Howard UK 2004-03-26 9:06:05 AM||   2004-03-26 9:06:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 "Although we owe much to Islam handing on to the West many of the treasures of Greek thought"
This really pisses me off! It was the Byzantine Empire that preserved Greek heritage, not the friggin' muslims.
Posted by Spot 2004-03-26 9:20:36 AM||   2004-03-26 9:20:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Curry was a Hindu idea waasn't it ? Like Arabic numerals and zero, also Hindu.
Posted by Anonymous 2004-03-26 9:24:01 AM||   2004-03-26 9:24:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Clever c*nt. Probably right though - wasn't it supposedly a bastardisation of Indian food by the British Raj? I know my curry house is Halal tho' (and pretty fine). Anyway, thank fuck for The Enlightenment. I wish Carey had said this when he was in position. Brilliant, but will probably be 'fatwad' like Rushdie.
Posted by Howard UK 2004-03-26 9:34:34 AM||   2004-03-26 9:34:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 It's simple......muslims must be destroyed.
Posted by Texan 2004-03-26 9:42:38 AM||   2004-03-26 9:42:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 oh come on Texan. What needs to be destroyed is the moderate Muslim's wall of silence. They need to stand up and do what is right. Yet all they do is whine about someone giving them suspicious looks. Oh! Like we care anymore!! We get suspicious looks from security guards everytime we enter a building!!

IMHO, if they can't do their part to protect everyone's freedom, then they aren't welcome here. Democracy REQUIRES citizen involvement and courage and allegience. Go home to the backwater despotic swamps you came from if you aren't willing to do your part as a citizen of the free world.
Posted by B 2004-03-26 9:48:20 AM||   2004-03-26 9:48:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 I just want to make it clear - I don't think Muslim's stink. I just think they need to help out more if they want to participate in the Great Experiment of Freedom and Democracy. While many of them are, many more are not pulliing their weight.
Posted by B 2004-03-26 10:01:05 AM||   2004-03-26 10:01:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 thank fuck for The Enlightenment

ROFLMAO 5 words that best describe our western heritage.
Posted by Shipman 2004-03-26 10:47:10 AM||   2004-03-26 10:47:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Titter titter.
Posted by Howard UK 2004-03-26 10:52:15 AM||   2004-03-26 10:52:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 ROFLMAO

Translation please.

Posted by Howard UK 2004-03-26 10:55:23 AM||   2004-03-26 10:55:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 This guy put into words a lot of what I've thought in the past. I just hope he doesn't get blasted for telling the truth. We don't only need to break the wall of silence - nothing's going to change unless they also realize that they're not above criticism. Hell, if our civilization can be blasted, so can theirs - and they've got a lot less to be proud of.
Posted by The Doctor 2004-03-26 11:11:07 AM||   2004-03-26 11:11:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Howard
ROFLMAO = Rolling on floor laughing my arse off.
Posted by Shipman 2004-03-26 11:18:06 AM||   2004-03-26 11:18:06 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 "Dr Carey is trampling on a very sensitive area by referring to the Koran and the traditions of the Prophet."

There's the problem in a nutshell. Carey was trying to explain the merit of critical thinking, rationality, and clear-minded scholarship. Yet this moron, who is himself probably considered an infidel by the bin-Laden types for his "moderation," makes an implied threat against Carey for even daring to "refer" to the Koran and the Prophet.
Posted by sludj 2004-03-26 12:38:04 PM||   2004-03-26 12:38:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Ten-Four.
Posted by Howard UK 2004-03-26 1:32:28 PM||   2004-03-26 1:32:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Thought I might be being called a motherfunker
Posted by Howard UK 2004-03-26 1:34:29 PM||   2004-03-26 1:34:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 the beginnings of calculus

Wha???? Yeah right.
Posted by Rafael 2004-03-26 1:51:25 PM||   2004-03-26 1:51:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Lord Carey brings up alot of good points. Even though I believe the truth can come from more than one source and Islam sounds good when described by Muslims, but in reality it's a religion which has been led down the wrong road. There are not inherit checks and balances in Islam and that's its fate, to be our opposite, to reward death and killing. I should not feel anger towards many Muslims in the US, many of them realize this wrong life and are here in the US to escape from the lies of the Middle East.

Time is relative for different cultures, the Islamic world is still a few centuries behind us. You look how brainwashed we all were 100-200 years ago and see that changing them is not going to be easy.
Posted by Anonymous 2004-03-26 1:57:45 PM||   2004-03-26 1:57:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 Anonymous

Yes it sounds good but what they don't tell you is that Koran has two parts: the Mecca surates where there is tolerance and wisdom and the Medina surates (when Muhammad tastes power) who call for war, loot and murder. But the Medina surates are supposed to have been written later and thus they supercede the Mecca ones. Guess they didn't tell you that? And perhaps they told you "Islam" means "Peace"? This is a plain lie: "Islam" means submission, the Arabic word for Peace is Salam.
Posted by JFM  2004-03-26 3:20:36 PM||   2004-03-26 3:20:36 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 "Although we owe much to Islam handing on to the West many of the treasures of Greek thought, the beginnings of calculus, Aristotelian thought during the period known in the West as the dark ages, it is sad to relate that no great invention has come for many hundred years from Muslim countries,"

Bingo. That says it all right there. Jihad wars using children as instruments of foreign policy are not a sign of a civlilzation. In fact they can claim the honor of the only life force in all of nature which uses its young for self preservation, as seen by the mad Islamzoid mindset.
Posted by Bill Nelson  2004-03-26 8:47:51 PM||   2004-03-26 8:47:51 PM|| Front Page Top

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