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2004-03-13 Europe
5 arrested in Madrid in connection with train bombings
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Posted by Lux 2004-03-13 2:26:23 PM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Where'd you get the report about it being 3 morrocans and 2 indians?
Posted by Damn_Proud_American  2004-3-13 2:30:50 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com]  2004-3-13 2:30:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 The current (2:39pm EST) front page story on Fox News says 3 Muslims and 2 Hindus were arrested.

Hindus? WTF? Reporter error is what I'm thinking because Hindus terrorists tend to kill Muslims, they don't co-operate with them.
Posted by Laurence of the Rats  2004-3-13 2:41:13 PM||   2004-3-13 2:41:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 LOL, in the time it took me to post that the text has been changed to 3 Morroccans and 2 Indians.

Wish I'd gotten a screen shot.
Posted by Laurence of the Rats  2004-3-13 2:42:01 PM||   2004-3-13 2:42:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 i've read a Dutch report saying they tracked one of the Marrocans after checking out the gsm phone sim-card that was still in one of the unexploded bags
Posted by lyot 2004-3-13 2:43:57 PM||   2004-3-13 2:43:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I have tried to get the news at the source (Spain Interior Ministry http://www.mir.es) but there is nothing
Posted by JFM  2004-3-13 2:44:25 PM||   2004-3-13 2:44:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 From The Beeb:

"Early this afternoon, members of the National Police corps made five arrests, three of citizens of Moroccan nationality, two citizens of Indian nationality, and there are two other Spaniards of Indian origin from whom statements are being taken now,"

Posted by Parabellum  2004-3-13 2:51:05 PM||   2004-3-13 2:51:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 FWIW, here is a good link.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040313/ap_on_re_eu/spain_bombings_arrests_4

As someone says here in their Classic Style....Surprise Meter Off, the Needle not twitching at all....

Posted by Traveller 2004-3-13 2:55:32 PM||   2004-3-13 2:55:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Anybody think the Indians are going to turn out to be Hindu or Sihk or Christian?

Anybody?

*crickets chirping*
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-3-13 3:09:06 PM||   2004-3-13 3:09:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Periodista Digital has this:

Detenidas 5 personas relacionadas con el atentado del 11-M

El ministro del Interior, Ángel Acebes, ha anunciado la detención en Madrid de tres marroquíes y dos hindúes por su vinculación con los atentados en la capital el pasado día 11. Además, hay dos españoles de origen indio a los que se les está tomando declaración. Los arrestados están relacionados con la tarjeta prepago hallada en la mochila bomba que la policía desactivó junto a la comisaría de Vallecas.
Posted by True German Ally 2004-3-13 3:58:28 PM||   2004-3-13 3:58:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 If you read Spanish, El Mundo has an interesting article about the way the bombs were exploded (by calling the cell phone in the rucksack).
Posted by True German Ally 2004-3-13 4:04:10 PM||   2004-3-13 4:04:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 9 in EGoogle nglish

Stopped 5 people related to the attack of 11-M the minister of the Interior, Acebes Angel, has announced the halting in Madrid of three Moroccans and two Hindu by his entailment with the attacks in the capital the past day 11. In addition, there are two Spaniards of Indian origin to which declaration is being taken them. The arrested ones are related to the card prepayment found in the knapsack pump that the police deactivated next to the police station of Vallecas.
Posted by Mr. Davis  2004-3-13 4:35:31 PM||   2004-3-13 4:35:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Here's the Google translation of TGA's link:

Stopped three Moroccans and two Indians in Madrid

MADRID . - The minister of the Interior, Acebes Angel, has announced the halting in Madrid of three Moroccans and two Indians by his presumed entailment with the attacks in the capital the past day 11. In addition, hindu are "two Spaniards of origin '", according to the minister, to whom declaration is being taken them . The arrested ones would be related to the card prepayment found in the knapsack pump that the police deactivated next to the police station of Vallecas.

The minister has assured that two Hindus had been stopped and sources of the Department of the Interior have emphasized that Acebes talked about to the nationality of the arrested ones and not to their religion.

The operation is open and, according to the minister, it has not done more than to begin. The prisoners have been arrested in different districts from Madrid and they are in police dependencies to come to its interrogation.

A delegation of high people in charge of the services of security in Morocco will travel to Madrid to know the identity the three Moroccan citizens.

Acebes has explained that still is soon for establishing entailments between the attacks of Madrid and those that the last year took place in Casablanca , although yes has recognized that some of the prisoners could have relations with Moroccan extremist groups.

"the Police is going to continue working all the routes, although the arrests open an important one via of investigation ", has assured Acebes in reference to their declarations yesterday in which it informed into which it was shuffled that islamistas ETA or radical groups would be behind the attacks. The holder of Interior has not discarded that exists terrorist international cooperation.

Registries in districts of the capital

Also, it has assured that several immovable addresses and in the capital have been registered and has indicated that some of the prisoners could have relation with Moroccan extremist groups. The investigation has been ordered by the National Hearing.

The minister has confirmed the existence of a witness who saw three encapuchadas people or "with the hidden face with scarfs" that, according to this testimony, supposedly left the van found in Alcala de Henares.

Finally, it has added that does not fit any doubt to him that the people in charge of the "criminal terrorist attack will be stopped and will pay to their faults and their responsibility, fulfilling completely its sentences", because, in his opinion, "they have conducted a terrible battle against our democracy, our coexistence".

Important finding

The last finding of the security forces was the one of a stock market of sports that contained an explosive of Plastic explosive of the mark ECHO made in Spain , reinforced with shrapnel to multiply its effect, along with a detonator and a movable telephone. This detonator was just as found Thursdays in a van in Alcala de Henares and were made in copper and not in aluminum, that are those that usually uses ETA.

The experts in the antiterrorist fight also are looking for DNA tests in gloves, a jersey and a t-shirt that were inside the van of Alcala de Henares. In addition they are studying tens of gathered digital tracks in the vehicle.

The found movable telephone in the knapsack of Vallecas, card prepayment and the Trium mark , was programmed so that its alarm sounded to one hour certain and to activate therefore the explosive. In addition, the configuration of the options of the apparatus was in Spanish.

As far as the explosives, to the Civil Guard it does not consist no robbery months in the last to him. The Plastic explosive is dedicated to public works and mining and makes in Spain, but also in several European countries, mainly in Germany, Czech Republic and Poland. In our country, the producer is Spanish Union of Riotinto Explosives, that has registered no robbery neither in factory, nor in deposits, nor in transport, although there are other companies that concern it of the outside and they sell it here. Sources of the antiterrorist fight have needed that it is very difficult that somebody can remove a as important amount of explosives as the used one by the terrorists in Madrid.

With respect to the tape in Arab with versicles of the Corán found in the van located in Alcala de Henares, in which also were identical timers to which there were in stock-market of sports, the minister assured that "there are no new data".

Doubts on the responsibility

The doubts on the responsibility arose same Thursday. In principle, the minister of the Interior, Acebes Angel assured butcher who "did not fit any doubt to him" that ETA was behind the massacre.

Hours later, the own minister of Interior returned to appear in press conference to announce the finding in Alcala de Henares of a van that had been robbed in Madrid the 28 of February and in that were eight detonators and one tape with versicles of the Corán. The hypothesis of A the Qaeda took force.

Later, in a supposed letter of A the Qaeda sent to a published Arab newspaper in London, the Brigades of Abu Hafs To the Masri vindicated their responsibility of the attack. The organization attributed the massacre to a "adjustment of old accounts" with Spain.
Posted by Mr. Davis  2004-3-13 4:41:26 PM||   2004-3-13 4:41:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 The minister has assured that two Hindus had been stopped and sources of the Department of the Interior have emphasized that Acebes talked about to the nationality of the arrested ones and not to their religion.


Meaning they're Citizens of India, not necessarily Hindus.
Posted by Parabellum  2004-3-13 5:14:32 PM||   2004-3-13 5:14:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Crap.If this turns out to be an Islamist operation,you Americans can kiss goodbye to any hope of Trans-Atlantic cooperation in WOT.Europe will learn its lesson:don't be friends with Uncle Sam,if you don't want to get blown up.Which is why I'm still hoping that ETA's involved somehow.
Posted by El Id  2004-3-13 7:02:20 PM||   2004-3-13 7:02:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Responsibility has just been claimed by Abu Dujan Al Afghani, so called commander of the European branch of Al Qaeda..He declared this was an attack by Al Qaeda, because of the Spanish cooperation in Iraq..Al Afghani makes reference in his statement to the Prophet Muhammad.
Posted by lyot 2004-3-13 7:31:44 PM||   2004-3-13 7:31:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 sarcasm\Now just hold on a minute...Al Qaeda is attacking Spaniards on behalf of Saddam Hussein and the Ba'athists?

But...but...the Left has assured us that there is no connection between Al Qaeda and the Hussein Regime.

And John F'n Kerry said the Coalition is phony so surely the jihadis wouldn't attack Spain or the other 28 nations (beside the US/UK) that are 'not really involved'.//sarcasm

Posted by JDB 2004-3-13 7:48:16 PM||   2004-3-13 7:48:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 the article on those Syrian volunteers sheds a good light on the treatment foreign elements in Iraq exactly got..Doesn't really point into the direction of strong links between Jihadi's & Saddam's Baath party...
Posted by lyot 2004-3-13 7:55:08 PM||   2004-3-13 7:55:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 So what your saying,El Id,is that Europe lets other people determine who Europe's friends and allies will be.
That statement of yours does not speak well of European courage.
Posted by Raptor  2004-3-13 8:44:21 PM||   2004-3-13 8:44:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Be interesting to see what happens in today's election. The BBC is spinning like crazy a backlash against Aznar and his party over their support of the Iraq coalition. Given the BBC is wrong is wrong on most issues these days, I suspect they are wrong on this.
Posted by Phil B  2004-3-13 8:56:19 PM||   2004-3-13 8:56:19 PM|| Front Page Top

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