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2004-03-10 Europe
Turkish Forces want to know, well, everything
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Posted by Steve 2004-03-10 10:37:43 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 there are those Masons again. I think I've heard about them as related to the WOT maybe two times before this week, and now they are everywhere...EVERYWHERE I tell you!

Posted by B 2004-3-10 10:49:11 AM||   2004-3-10 10:49:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 i dint know turkey have ku klax klan.
Posted by muck4doo 2004-3-10 10:50:48 AM||   2004-3-10 10:50:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Muck-for once I agree (Satanists, too?). But notice that the one group they need to monitor is the one not included: Islamists.
Posted by Spot  2004-3-10 11:26:44 AM||   2004-3-10 11:26:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 ...B-
No, the Illuminati are everywhere. The Masons are just their front.

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-3-10 11:27:33 AM||   2004-3-10 11:27:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 But notice that the one group they need to monitor is the one not included: Islamists.

Ah, but they did, Spot: groups formed by children of rich families, sects and gun-sexual groups.
Posted by Steve  2004-3-10 11:39:15 AM||   2004-3-10 11:39:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#6  I hope they really don't believe the sex groups get together to discuss politics and state subversion.
Posted by Lil Dhimmi 2004-3-10 12:07:33 PM||   2004-3-10 12:07:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "Just keep an eye on everyone!"
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-3-10 12:18:08 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-3-10 12:18:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 B & Mike, We (Masons) aren't all out to take over the world, just to try to make it a little better place for all mankind. (viz. Shriners Childrens hospitals, York Rite eye clinics, Scottish Rite burn centers, etc.) The Illumiwhoevers aren't associated with us, just an urban myth. If we wanted to take over the world, we would have done it back in '45 with Churchill & Truman, with the help of John Wayne. (All Masons) Conspiracy Theorists love speculating about us though...
Posted by Bodyguard  2004-3-10 2:33:50 PM||   2004-3-10 2:33:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 All due to the "Stonecutter's" episode on the Simpsons
Posted by Frank G  2004-3-10 3:26:30 PM||   2004-3-10 3:26:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 "The high society"? Mucky, you wanna take that one?
Posted by tu3031 2004-3-10 3:45:29 PM||   2004-3-10 3:45:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Bodyguard> Secrecy and secret memberships both invite conspiracy speculation. You say that "this and this and that famous person" was a Mason, and soon people start wondering how much of world's history was influenced by this. And Masonry seems to be intentionally feeding this paranoia.

I somehow don't see why building clinics or doing other works of charity requires any kind of secret organization behind it.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-3-10 10:14:56 PM||   2004-3-10 10:14:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Aris - We're not a secret society. I wear my ring every where I go, and have the emblems on my car. We are simply a group of fellows who have a few secrets. (Recognition mostly, all taken from the Bible)
Posted by Bodyguard  2004-3-10 10:59:37 PM||   2004-3-10 10:59:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Aris: You're way off base on the Masons. Most of the guys I knew in the Masons were construction workers and black NCOs in the US Army. The Masons are in fact kind of a support group for black NCOs. The only secret thing about it is how it has helped them overcome racism. Someone needs to write a book about that whole chapter in Masonic history. It's little known and very interesting, I'd imagine.
Posted by 11A5S 2004-3-10 11:54:41 PM||   2004-3-10 11:54:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Bodyguard> Oh, please! Masons are pretty much the definition of "secret society". No Mason is allowed to reveal the identity of another living Mason, am I wrong about that? That's why you require methods of "recognition".

And Masonic teachings were hidden for a very long while until they were exposed by former members. If you had behaved as any ordinary religious cult and openly prosylytize, then you'd not invite as much paranoia as you tend to do.

That's besides the question of whether you do good or ill.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-3-11 7:19:47 PM||   2004-3-11 7:19:47 PM|| Front Page Top

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