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2004-03-03

Iranian defector reports pro-U.S. sentiment in Iran military

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Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-03-03 2:34:23 PM|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 seems to me that if America and allies can tip the Iranian military balence of power in favour of the reformists then Iran could be on for a change of goverment, or a huge war. Be real nice to see a bloodless take over by reformists but somehow i doubt it, anyway it'd probably be good in the short term but in the very long term perhaps not so due to the fact that any hardliners left behind will no doubt blame America for it and carry out terror campaigns on both America and the reformists now in power. My solution is a mass bombardment using Trident missiles, it'll keep them quiet for a few centurys

Posted by Jon Shep U.K 2004-3-3 2:45:22 PM|| 2004-3-3 2:45:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 "...but in the very long term perhaps not so due to the fact that any hardliners left behind will no doubt blame America for it..."

America will be blamed regardless. While we are at it Mecca and Medina would be good targets along with Damascus.

Posted by dataman1 2004-3-3 3:05:06 PM|| 2004-3-3 3:05:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 "help those fighting for the for the national interests of southern Azerbaijan" -- I assume that by "southern Azerbaijan" he means NW Iran (up to 20 million Iranians speak Azeri as their first language). If this is evidence of Azeri nationalism in Iran, it is news to me.

Jon Shep -- your solution is not good. A substantial majority of young Iranians seem to be pro-US. With regime change, Iran could again become our strongest ally in this region.

Posted by closet neo-con 2004-3-3 3:06:43 PM|| 2004-3-3 3:06:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 agreed it could become a very strong ally but there will always be that extra large threat the Iranian hardliners take with them where ever they go what ever century it may be. My point is basically it could be too risky not to Nuke Boom them, i'm not advocating doing it for no reason but i'm sure they'll fall into that trap soon enough if they already havn't started the fall with thier nuclear weapons games

Posted by Jon Shep U.K 2004-3-3 3:16:13 PM|| 2004-3-3 3:16:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I believe the Black Hats & Thugs are prime for tipping over -- and I believe it can be done without anything like invasion or booming. They're ripe. Mmmmm. Tasty SF Ops with TLAMs-&-cruise-missiles-On-Demand, y'know - that new Just-In-Time inventory management system that everyone is raving about, coordinated with local contacts would create the opportunity for the populace to do it themselves. Of course, we would maintain an independent menu of Nuke Facility Shutdown appetizers. Yummm.

Posted by .com 2004-3-3 4:18:29 PM|| 2004-3-3 4:18:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 At least two more would be nice to see if this situation is true and exploitable.

This can be done without having to look to sources. All GWB needs to do is to make it clear that if the Iranian public decides they have had enough of the mullahs and want to end their rule, the U.S. will support them in whatever way we can. Subsequently, if the ruling mullah class tries to clamp down on unrest, the citizenry just might not be as cowed as they would be if American support for their goals were uncertain.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-3-3 5:17:10 PM|| 2004-3-3 5:17:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 If this is true I hope it happens soon.
Why do I suspect that the far left is cringing at the thought of Bush being able to take credit (at least in part) if the religous wackos in Iran are overthrown.

Posted by Lurks Often 2004-3-3 5:35:13 PM|| 2004-3-3 5:35:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 AP: Central Asian and Southern Caucasian Freedom of Expression Network (CASCFEN) has an independent, well written article on this event and situation.

Posted by GK 2004-3-3 5:51:50 PM|| 2004-3-3 5:51:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 GK - Whoa! That's very interesting... His rank / position / privileged status certainly lends substance to the reports... Thx!

Heh, tick tock Mullahfuckas!

Posted by .com 2004-3-3 7:09:43 PM|| 2004-3-3 7:09:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 There are Iranian Azerbaijanis who have organized to join divided Azerbaijan. The first Iranian Azerbaijani I met in Europe was a former Navy officer under both the Shah and the mullahs who had fought in the Iraq War. He was active in such an organization even before the breakup of the USSR. That's why the mullahs have worked hard to keep the (Former Soviet) Republic of Azerbaijan weak and ineffective. They supported Armenia during the Nagorno-Karabakh War and there was unrest in Tabriz in 1992 when the Iranian Azerbaijanis found out about it (the mullahs had controlled news of the war quite strictly).

Posted by Minutus 2004-3-4 10:17:35 PM|| 2004-3-4 10:17:35 PM|| Front Page Top

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