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2004-02-04 Terror Networks
’Islam will invade Europe and America’
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Posted by Old Patriot 2004-02-04 1:05:37 PM|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Question about Islam. Back in the day when they were conquering everything and rolling up through Spain and Greece... Why didn't they make a serious thrust into subsahara Africa?

Was it racism? Difficult terrain? Or pride at being stopped by the Christians?

On a similar front I always wondered why the Spanish flush with gold from the new world harrassed fellow Christians in constant wars (heretics, I know) instead of rolling Islam out of North Africa.
Posted by ruprecht 2004-2-4 1:30:33 PM||   2004-2-4 1:30:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 "What is new is that [the US] appears with such a grim face, without morals, without principles, without law and without recognition of the need for the U.N. or the Security Council."

Great, the message is getting across. I'd rather this guy describe us as "The Shining City on the Hill" or something like that, but I'll settle for "The Country That Can Put a 2,000 Pound Bomb Through My Bathroom Window."
Posted by Matt 2004-2-4 1:46:38 PM||   2004-2-4 1:46:38 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Damn Matt! Now I have to clean my monitor! LOL!
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-2-4 1:57:48 PM||   2004-2-4 1:57:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Ruprecht -- Islam (under Arab and Berber leadership) conquered Spain in the 700s. Greece remained untouched until the 1300s and 1400s, when the Turks took it over. Sub-Saharan Africa was distant, almost unreachable before Berbers organized camel caravans in the 800s. Also, it tended to be deadly to outsiders (due mainly to malaria). Islam did spread into the zone from Senegal to Chad (the Sahel) about a thousand years ago, but it was mostly through trade. Jihad didn't come here until the early 1800s, led by Fulani herders -- not Arabs. The East African coast was also Islamified by about 1000, by way of trade and military contacts with Arabia.

Spain and Portugal did try to conquer North Africa -- Spain controlled Tunis and a number of other areas for many years (it still has Ceuta). But a series of military disaster here under Phillip II destroyed these ambitions. Portugal's attempt in Morocco in 1580 was so disastrous that the kingdom ceased to exist for 60 years (Spain took it over).

Europe had no real military advantages over Islam until the mid-1600s. The Turks still had no idea that they had fallen behind -- until their ill-fated attempt to take Vienna in 1683.
Posted by closet neo-con 2004-2-4 1:59:59 PM||   2004-2-4 1:59:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I think this qoute by Bernard Lewis fits this guy to a T -> 'At times this hatred goes beyond hostility to specific interests or actions or policies or even countries and becomes a rejection of Western civilization as such, not only what it does but what it is, and the principles and values that it practices and professes. These are indeed seen as innately evil, and those who promote or accept them as the "enemies of God." ' - from The Roots of Muslim Rage
Posted by ZoGg 2004-2-4 2:16:57 PM|| [http://www.americanintelligence.us/]  2004-2-4 2:16:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 "I expect America to collapse soon," he said. "The elements of this collapse in America [already] exist, and Allah is the savior."

The only collapse that's going to happen here is a self-inflicted one if the PC brigade continues their work. It won't have anything to do with the wishes of Islamic clerics.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-2-4 3:03:47 PM||   2004-2-4 3:03:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "’Akef said he is certain that "without the betrayal in Iraq, the Iraqis would have tormented the Americans with all kinds of torments," and U.S. forces would have left."

I guess this means fleas, lice and eating goats.
Posted by XMAN 2004-2-4 3:05:52 PM||   2004-2-4 3:05:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#8  Sounds like he hired Baghdad Bob's speechwriter.
Posted by Lil Dhimmi(JC)  2004-2-4 3:14:18 PM||   2004-2-4 3:14:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 appears with such a grim face, without morals, without principles, without law But with the New Model Army
Good heavens it ain't Bush=Hitler it's Bush=Cromwell!

Posted by Shipman 2004-2-4 3:15:06 PM||   2004-2-4 3:15:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 "The matter of America’s attempt to take over the world is not new."

What's new is that I can say, ""I have complete faith that Islam will invade Europe and America, because Islam has logic and a mission" and have the pc people who claim to be against everything I stand for, cheer me on. Only in America.
Posted by De3pthoughts 2004-2-4 3:18:39 PM||   2004-2-4 3:18:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Closet neo-con, thanks for the data.
Posted by ruprecht 2004-2-4 3:21:01 PM||   2004-2-4 3:21:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 "In 1993, I went to America and I published a book, ’Political Pluralism and the Woman,’ that was distributed in the mosque," he said. "Thirty [American] women converted immediately to Islam as soon as they read it."

Those 30 must be real prize packages to be willingly burkaed up.
Posted by Tibor 2004-2-4 3:39:58 PM||   2004-2-4 3:39:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#13  what's a burqa?
Posted by muck4doo  2004-2-4 3:42:25 PM||   2004-2-4 3:42:25 PM|| Front Page Top

#14  oh wait! that's one of those jewish thingies isn't it. i saw one in yentl.
Posted by muck4doo  2004-2-4 3:43:50 PM||   2004-2-4 3:43:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 I must say, his logic and intellectual rigor are excruciating.

without the betrayal in Iraq, the Iraqis would have tormented the Americans with all kinds of torments

if, if, if. if they hadn't done it, things would be different. sheesh. but they DID betray. that's what they do. and for good reason, might I add.

The matter of America’s attempt to take over the world is not new

it can't be old, cuz America ain't been around that long.

besides, in one breath he's getting all red in the face about how America is trying to take over the world. Seems to believe world domination is a BAD thing. Yet, in another breath he's huffing and puffing about how Islam will take over the world.

if he wasn't so dangerous (well, if his followers weren't so dangerous because of their sheer numbers and lemming qualities), I wouldn't be able to stop laughing.
Posted by PlanetDan 2004-2-4 5:21:40 PM||   2004-2-4 5:21:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Let's do a little PR for ourselves so that the world of Islam doesn't continue to think we are going to collapse. Next year, don't let MTV stage a crotch-grabbing gropefest for the Super Bowl halftime show. Stick with Charlie Daniels and Toby Keith. That sends a better message to the people that hate us.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-2-4 7:39:23 PM||   2004-2-4 7:39:23 PM|| Front Page Top

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