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2004-01-29 Britain

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Posted by Zhang Fei 2004-01-29 12:01:42 PM|| || Front Page|| [11126 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 yet Gilligan still wants his job

Posted by Frank G 2004-1-29 12:16:22 PM|| 2004-1-29 12:16:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 it just keeps getting better and better!Davies and Dyke,next the fuckin rip off license fee.

Posted by Jon Shep U.K 2004-1-29 12:17:55 PM|| 2004-1-29 12:17:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Is this the same Dyke who had Chinese troops plugging his hole last week?

Posted by Dar 2004-1-29 12:22:48 PM|| 2004-1-29 12:22:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 I wonder if the scandal combined with new leadership will lead to a more balanced viewpoint from the BBC.

Posted by Damn_Proud_American 2004-1-29 12:27:32 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com] 2004-1-29 12:27:32 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 DPA -- unlikely. They'll just dig in their heels and keep fighting. We are talking about liberal reporters here; they have two strikes against their grasp of reality already.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-1-29 12:41:18 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-1-29 12:41:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 The sad, sad fact is that the beeb will consider this an isolated event and will not examine their systematic bias as a newsgathering agency. I have a feeling they're gonna circle the wagons though, and won't accept feedback meant in good faith.

Instead, they need a wholesale reexamination of their assumptions and biases -- there's a whole lotta "groupthink" going on there.

It's not your father's BBC.

Shame.

Posted by PlanetDan 2004-1-29 12:46:59 PM|| 2004-1-29 12:46:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 They've (the other rags) already attacked Hutton as being narrow in his investigation.....so there ya go.

Posted by Jarhead 2004-1-29 12:50:51 PM|| 2004-1-29 12:50:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Dar - are you talking about this pitcher turned 'catcher'?

Posted by Raj 2004-1-29 12:54:02 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com] 2004-1-29 12:54:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 ..next the fuckin rip off license fee.

If this is the television license fee, I gotta admit, this suprised the hell out of me when I first heard about it. I was also dumbfounded when I first heard that officials actually run around with devices that detect the oscillator circuits of operating TVs.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-29 1:11:12 PM|| 2004-1-29 1:11:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 I think they need an omsbuds~~man~~ person. Whatever happened to th nice little channel that brought us Benny Hill? what a shame they had to try their hand at covering news.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-1-29 1:13:21 PM|| 2004-1-29 1:13:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Did anyone see the Beeb's on-line coverage of the Hutton Report? If so, you know that any hopes for a change in reporting policy (like maybe reporting what actually happened), is a forlorn one.

The first few bullet points in their report where basically:
(1) "Kelly killed himself,
(2) no one could have known that making up stories about him would result in such illiberal behavior,
(3) and anyway he was an annoying fuck that no one could have helped anyway"

Way down about number 20 or so on the list was the aside that "oh, by the way, the report may have been a tad inaccurate."

Oh yeah, we'll see changes now......

Posted by Mercutio 2004-1-29 1:58:42 PM|| 2004-1-29 1:58:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Bomb-a-rama, would you familiar, by chance, with the Monty Python skit about the "pet license?"
As in the pet license "for my little chum, Erik the half-bee...,""Ministry of Housign," "Our vans can pinpoint a purr...", etc.,etc.
I think that was a send-up of the British TV license detector in action.

Posted by Jennie Taliaferro 2004-1-29 4:08:34 PM|| [http://www.greatestjeneration.com] 2004-1-29 4:08:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 It was the "Ministry of Housinge", I believe, pronounced "How-singe".

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-1-29 4:22:51 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-1-29 4:22:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 LOL! Every time I start to worry about the 7th Century activists using 20th century explosives I gain strength knowing they have little chance with a civilization which laughs as much as ours.

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-29 5:45:08 PM|| 2004-1-29 5:45:08 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Stand back white folk... needin to get at my tools, yep, ready to snark.

LET'S PINCER THE BASTARDS

Posted by Nuss Ratchett 2004-1-29 5:48:06 PM|| 2004-1-29 5:48:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 The first few bullet points in their report where basically:
(1) "Kelly killed himself,
(2) no one could have known that making up stories about him would result in such illiberal behavior,
(3) and anyway he was an annoying fuck that no one could have helped anyway"

Umm, I think those were Lord Hutton's conclusions actually. Slightly surprised that he managed to be spot on about the beeb's failings, less so about the govt's. I do wonder what the MoD did to Dr Kelly cos AFAIK he was a pretty tough character, his wife claimed he'd faced down gun-totting ba'athi thugs while he was an inspector in Iraq so he doesn't sound like the sort of person who'd crack easily under pressure. Also since AFAIK Dr Kelly was on record as saying a war was the only way to get rid of Saddam, since he believed Iraq had plenty of WMD & had seen Saddam's Iraq close up one does wonder why he was complaining to Gilligan & Susan Watts in the first place?

Posted by Dave 2004-1-29 6:07:40 PM|| 2004-1-29 6:07:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 is it true that all the 'journalists' are going to quit if Gilligan loses his job? Can we get the liberal press in the U.S. to join in solidarity? A day without liberalism? What a wonderful world that would be!

Posted by Anonymous 2004-1-29 6:57:18 PM|| 2004-1-29 6:57:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Believe it or not, on the morning of 1/30 NPR had a short interview with a British journalist about the resignations, and the journalist was very pithy in summarizing the essence of the issue, which was not that the initial BBC report was slanted, but that the BBC higher-ups blew off the negative feedback received from those complaining about he slant, and the higher-ups refused to do anything about it, even so much as admit there might have been a problem. For that the top echelon either deserved to be fired, or should have resigned. I wish that standard were applied to the US intelligence and law-enforcement agencies over 9/11.

Posted by Tresho 2004-1-30 8:14:27 AM|| 2004-1-30 8:14:27 AM|| Front Page Top

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