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Kerry: Israel can’t provide goods in talks with Palestinians
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Posted by TS 2004-01-26 3:19:12 PM|| || Front Page|| [11134 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 It isn't clear if Kerry meant the first quote as a criticism of Israel or the Palestinians. However, the fact that he wants to send Jimmy to the region is a barely mitigated disaster.
Posted by mhw 2004-1-26 3:24:15 PM||   2004-1-26 3:24:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 Iowa must have gone to his head.

Bush gets kudos because he says the OBVIOUS.

The Palestinian Authority must stop Terror. Not, stop it cold. Just F@#king TRY. Lift a pinky for crying out loud.
Posted by Daniel King 2004-1-26 3:39:01 PM||   2004-1-26 3:39:01 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Ok... that takes care of East Dade precincts.
Posted by Shipman 2004-1-26 3:40:13 PM||   2004-1-26 3:40:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Wow. Kerry should have said something a little less stupid, like maybe "YEAAAARGH!"
Posted by BH  2004-1-26 3:42:33 PM||   2004-1-26 3:42:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 And Captain Hairdo claims foreign policy as one of his strengths? He might as well paint a clown nose on his face...
Posted by Raj 2004-1-26 3:48:46 PM|| [http://angrycyclist.blogspot.com]  2004-1-26 3:48:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I thought that too, mhw, it wasn't clear who he was speaking of, Israel or the palestinians...haaretz took it to mean Israel.
Kerry could have been more clear, that's for sure.
Anyway, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter...yikes.
Posted by TS 2004-1-26 3:52:17 PM||   2004-1-26 3:52:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 pro-Paleo, anti-Joooos? Must be the French in him coming out, and him, with Jewish ancestors even!
Posted by Frank G  2004-1-26 3:57:42 PM||   2004-1-26 3:57:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 nobody to negotiate

hmmm that means
1. Sharon wont deliver cause hes an extremist or whatever
2. Sharon wont deliver, cause hes preoccupied with scandal, internal politics, whatever
3. None on Pal side who can deliver, abu mazen gone, abu ala not working out, etc

Cant believe hes up enough on Israeli politics to have meant number 2. If he really meant something like number 1, wouldnt he have been clearer? of course you could say the same thing about 3. I think just some unclear speech whichever he meant (and probably meant 3) and to be fair to you GOPs, yes, if Bush had conflated Israel and the Pals as kerry seems to have done, hed be attacked for being dumb. Which would be unfair. You hereby have authorization to call kerry dumb.
Posted by liberalhawk 2004-1-26 4:18:28 PM||   2004-1-26 4:18:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Has there been a recent canvasing of the "Jewish" vote.

Generally, jewish folk are liberal and vote for the Democratic Party. I forget previously mentioned percentages. However, Bush's forign policy and stance on the Middle East and on holding Arafat and the PA accountable for Terror certainly has scored him potential votes (mine included).

Two potential candidates, and serious ones at that (DEAN and KERRY), have made comments that diminish Israel and raise up Arafat and the PA.

Do they think this is a winning strategy?
Posted by Daniel King 2004-1-26 4:26:37 PM||   2004-1-26 4:26:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 LH, the sad part is that Kerry is probably the smartest one of the remaining candidates. With the possible exception of Al Sharpton of course. :)
Posted by Gasse Katze 2004-1-26 4:27:21 PM||   2004-1-26 4:27:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 "It’s very difficult for Israel to negotiate because in Israel there is nobody to negotiate to actually deliver," Kerry said at a political rally in New Hampshire ahead of Tuesday’s primary.

Assuming that Kerry is talking about the Palestinians, then can't it be taken to mean that Arafart isn't worth a plugged nickel? If so, come right out and say it. No need to be hesitant about throwing a little support behind Israel - the Israelis have been far more honorable than Arafart and his thugs.

The Massachusetts senator called for strengthening the Palestinian Authority so that it will be stronger than Hamas. "It’s important for us to leverage the Palestinian Authority in order for them to be stronger than Hamas on the ground," he said.

Kerry has got to be kidding.

Kerry promised that if elected president, he would ask former U.S. presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter to serve as special envoys to the region.

Well this has gotta cheer up the Palestinians a bit. If they're smart, they'll have Kimmie's number handy for consultation purposes...
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-26 4:39:34 PM||   2004-1-26 4:39:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 I think we're going to see the Jewish vote shift some towards Bush. I don't think he'll get a majority, but 30% makes it a lot closer in New York, Pennsylvania and other urban states this fall.
Posted by Steve White  2004-1-26 5:22:48 PM||   2004-1-26 5:22:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 I think sending Carter would be a great idea. I'm sure the Palestinian mobs would love to discuss his brokering a deal between Israel and Egypt.
Posted by ruprecht 2004-1-26 5:44:43 PM||   2004-1-26 5:44:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Oh, and why make the Pal Authority stronger than Hamas? Its easier to refer to them as East and West Palestine, creating two Palestinian states. Then any worries about connecting them with foolish corridors and land swaps fade away. It would avoid a civil war as well.

Divide and conquer, more or less.
Posted by ruprecht 2004-1-26 5:48:33 PM||   2004-1-26 5:48:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 RE #9 Daniel, here're results of a Dec 12 poll:

Jews give the president an approval rating of nearly 80 percent, according to a survey released Dec.12 by the Republican Jewish Coalition.
If the election were held today, the survey found, more Jews would vote for Bush -- 42 percent -- than for former presidential candidate Al Gore, who received 39 percent support.
In the 2000 election, Gore got 79 percent of the Jewish vote to Bush's 19 percent.

After Kerry's lame proposals,GW should get even more support.
Posted by Gasse Katze 2004-1-26 6:35:26 PM||   2004-1-26 6:35:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Gasse,
consider the source; we don't know the way the questions were worded, we don't know the context and worse, the results are contradictory, if 80% give him a favorable rating he should get more than a 42-39 vote over the woodman
Posted by mhw 2004-1-26 8:04:10 PM||   2004-1-26 8:04:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Jimmy and Bill! There's a tag team! The hookers will be glad to see Bill and the scam artists will rejoice that Jimmah's back!
Posted by tu3031 2004-1-26 8:49:56 PM||   2004-1-26 8:49:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Its about time someone didn't bow down to the special interest groups that run America. My vote goes to Kerry.
Posted by OldTimer 2004-1-26 8:52:27 PM||   2004-1-26 8:52:27 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 My personal opinion is neither the PA or Sharon's current government can be trusted. There is no use negotiating with the PA until all corruption is rooted out. Sharon's policies are to the point of human rights violation (and yes I acknowledge PA deals with Terrorism). However each side is not helping the overall cause of peace for both Israeli's and Palestinians.
Posted by Rowen 2004-1-26 8:56:45 PM||   2004-1-26 8:56:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 If Kerry means that we should send Arafat more money, then I disagree. If Kerry means that we should tell all the Palestinians that the US considers Arafat to be our boy, then I agree. That would kill him without continued expense for all the kilowatts we are expending on the deathray.
Posted by Super Hose  2004-1-26 9:35:51 PM||   2004-1-26 9:35:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Sharon's policies are to the point of human rights violation (and yes I acknowledge PA deals with Terrorism).

Oh really? So what does this mean - you consider the lives of terrorist leaders to be equal to that of Israeli civilians? Sorry, but that doesn't wash.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-26 11:19:56 PM||   2004-1-26 11:19:56 PM|| Front Page Top

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