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2004-01-21 Middle East

Palestinians easily scale Israelâs $1.9 billion security fence

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Posted by Frank G 2004-01-21 12:10:43 AM|| || Front Page|| [11132 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "letâs see, thatâs a ...2 divided by 300....carry the 0âs....um... 99% reduction...guess it isnât working huh? "

That depends on how many infiltrations occur in *total*, not in that specific area. With an unfinished fence, infiltrators don't need to go through *there*, except in order to test the defenses for later use. Or so I imagine.

*When* the fence is built, only then will we be able to estimate how much infiltration is taking place.

This incident however still makes one wonder how defensible the Israeli fence will end up being, given that its future course is gonna be even more twisty than the current portion... The more twisty, the longer, the more troops needed to guard it... etc

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2004-1-21 12:39:05 AM|| 2004-1-21 12:39:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Probably looking for some sheesh! Why else pack a ladder.

I'm reminded of Hendrix, "Hey man, it's rain'n!"

Posted by Lucky 2004-1-21 12:42:58 AM|| 2004-1-21 12:42:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Electrify the sucker.

Posted by Rafael 2004-1-21 12:53:46 AM|| 2004-1-21 12:53:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 ....but can they do it while wearing a bomb belt?

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-1-21 2:28:46 AM|| [http://www.nuclearspace.com] 2004-1-21 2:28:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Electrify the sucker.

That'll do the trick.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-21 2:51:23 AM|| 2004-1-21 2:51:23 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 I reckon the Gaza fence is quite effective, if not perfect, and the security fence will be built on the same blueprint, with wall sections added. Anyway, if that is so easily breached, why do propaleostinian orgs everywhere screeching about the "apartheid wall"? Btw, 96% trench-fence-barbwire-patrol road-sensors-fine sand strip (for footprints), 4% concrete wall. You'll note that the vast majority of pictures, news footages, demonstrations, etc, etc... only show theses 4%. You might call it a bias.

Posted by Anonymickeymouse 2004-1-21 7:38:46 AM|| 2004-1-21 7:38:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Why not use a few land mines?

Posted by sludj 2004-1-21 12:25:33 PM|| 2004-1-21 12:25:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 The main point about a defensive wall, throughout history, is not that by itself provides some sort of security, but that a wall, combined with proper patrol and defense, will be a sufficient obstacle to greatly increase the security inside.

The benefit of the wall as opposed to a patrolled and defended open space, is that it lets you cut down substantially on the number of troops and sentries you need. Also, it lets you concentrate your troops in specific places from where they can respond in force as necessary (because now they have time to respond), rather than have realtively weak forces distributed along the length of the perimeter.

Posted by Carl in N.H. 2004-1-21 12:53:11 PM|| 2004-1-21 12:53:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 A negative reinforcement technique would be to wait until a bunch of guys were on the ladder and then open up with a 50 cal. Besides, an electrified fence might hurt somebody.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-1-21 1:33:10 PM|| 2004-1-21 1:33:10 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 If I were a Paleostinian, I would let them build the wall or fence, and just switch tactics. Instead of suicide bombers, use mortars, rockets, or just throw stones over it. This thing about counter-battery fire is all a myth (plus the IDF doesn't have radar). disclaimer: sarcasm

Posted by Rafael 2004-1-21 1:56:12 PM|| 2004-1-21 1:56:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Damn shame we couldn't have just recycled the Berlin Wall. Finally could have put the thing to good use.

Ed.

Posted by Ed Becerra 2004-1-21 2:39:18 PM|| 2004-1-21 2:39:18 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 This idea may only work for a short time, but if done correctly, could yield some really awesome results.

1: Coat the top of the wall with a layer of something like the black light ink that lets you get back into clubs and Disneyland and what-not. Instead of using a liquid dye, use a fine powder so as not to raise suspicions that there is anything else to the wall than the normal dust one would acquire climbing over concrete. At the same time make it a fine enough powder that even a vigorous brushing off couldn't remove it.

2: Wait.

3: That night, send out some stealth-type "eye in the sky" drone, like the one that filmed the fake paleo funeral last year. You know, the one one where the "bearers" accidently dumped the stretcher and the "corpse" kept getting up to run back on? Only this time, fit it with some sort of night vision camera that would be able to detect anyone with the dye.

4: At this point, either follow their activity to a den, or just have the coordinates sent to the IDF, who can then pull a , "Dust 'em till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark!"

Okay, maybe I read too many comics when I was a kid, but it sounds pretty feasible, yeah?

Posted by Dripping Sarcasm 2004-1-21 2:48:09 PM|| 2004-1-21 2:48:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 How about a derivative of the exploding-dye packets that are used in banks?

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-21 6:09:00 PM|| 2004-1-21 6:09:00 PM|| Front Page Top

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