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Gephardt Signals End to Presidential Bid

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Posted by Steve White 2004-01-20 12:41:36 AM|| || Front Page|| [11124 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Now if only Clark and Dean would quit.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2004-1-20 12:45:48 AM|| 2004-1-20 12:45:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 My humble opinion is that Kerry and Edwards aren't any great prizes, either, but since I'm not a Democrat I suppose I'll just make popcorn and enjoy the show.

Posted by Steve White 2004-1-20 12:48:19 AM|| 2004-1-20 12:48:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The Des Moines Register shows Clark (0.1%) with a commanding lead over Lieberman (0%) and Sharpton (0%), but as predicted he still trails Kucinick's 1.3%.
Thanks Iowa. (Tip of hat to Instapundit.)

Posted by Gasse Katze 2004-1-20 2:00:46 AM|| 2004-1-20 2:00:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Gephardt was an "old-fashioned" Democrat in both the bad and the good sense. In the bad sense, he was, domestically, a socialist idiotarian. But in the good sense, he was also a gut-level patriot, and-- as his withdrawal tonight demonstrated-- a decent and honorable man. For those reasons, I'm a little sad to see him go...
Especially when I consider what that tells me about the "new-fangled" Democratic Party.

It just cannot be a good thing for a nation when one of its two major parties has been captured by people who are pretty much as idiotarian as Dick, domestically, but seem far more willing than he was to put personal ambition ahead of love of country.

Posted by WUZZALIB 2004-1-20 2:14:35 AM|| 2004-1-20 2:14:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Dick Gephardt: "a miserable failure."

Posted by Anonymous 2004-1-20 6:42:20 AM|| 2004-1-20 6:42:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 This is good, but I'm still worried about Edwards. He just has that personality that gets the 'Soccer Mom' vote. And that is the vote which gave Clinton his Presidency.

Posted by Charles 2004-1-20 8:36:54 AM|| 2004-1-20 8:36:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 He just has that personality that gets the 'Soccer Mom' vote. And that is the vote which gave Clinton his Presidency.

It's up to the voter to look beyond superficial stuff like a Clintonian personality. If Edwards can pull one over on people and win using his personality instead of actually addressing real concerns, then the people who voted for him will truly get what they deserve.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-20 10:30:44 AM|| 2004-1-20 10:30:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 WaPo had an interesting Caucus story,At Precinct 21, Politics Played Out in a Barn . Gives a local example of how Gephardt lost and Kerry won. In Precinct 21 a group of nuns showed up in support of Kerry's strong core Catholicism?

Posted by Super Hose 2004-1-20 11:27:07 AM|| 2004-1-20 11:27:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Edwards simply came accross as a "nice young man" to Iowan's who place a premium on "politeness". Dean was toast when the interview of him berating the Iowa caucuses on Canadian TV becaome public. And whoever tossed that gernade onto the playing field did so with a certain "right wing conspiracy" deftness, even though it certainly came from within the Donk party. Karl Rove must be bummed.
Oh,and who would have known that rude "body piercers from Seattle" (Deannie Babies) would not sell well in a place like Iowa???

Posted by Capsu78 2004-1-20 11:34:54 AM|| 2004-1-20 11:34:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Re #1 & 2:
Dean would probably be easier for Bush to beat than Kerry or Edwards, but IMHO it's good for the country to have a strong, reasonable opposition. I want Bush to win, but not by the collapse of the Democrats into hatred and irrational ranting(tm). I'd like to see the Democrats find a viable and popular voice. Seems a lot to ask for these days ...

Posted by Lynwood 2004-1-20 11:38:33 AM|| 2004-1-20 11:38:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 If Edwards can pull one over on people and win using his personality instead of actually addressing real concerns, then the people who voted for him will truly get what they deserve.
The problem is, so do the rest of us. The problems that arose on Clinton's watch, and which mainly went unaddressed, are still causing problems today, under a different administration. As the old saying goes (paraphrased), "the good presidents do ends with their administration, but the bad lives on forever". There's still a ton of extraneous agencies left over from the Roosevelt presidency that need to be chisled out of Washington. I hate the idea of "choosing the lesser of two evils", because we still end up with an albatross instead of an eagle.

Posted by Old Patriot 2004-1-20 11:51:33 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2004-1-20 11:51:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Meh. Kerry's nutcase LLL wife will be a liability, assuming he gets the nod, and Iowa doesn't mean that at all. Granted, lots of soccer moms can get suckered in by a line of BS from a prettyboy, but without the WoT, "Where's Saddam?", and the Great Depression the dems were devoutly hoping for, they don't have anything. Dean's negative message might be enough to carry him through, but it's only a matter of degrees of how badly Dubya thrashes them.

Posted by 4thInfVet 2004-1-20 12:36:11 PM|| 2004-1-20 12:36:11 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 The problem is, so do the rest of us. The problems that arose on Clinton's watch, and which mainly went unaddressed, are still causing problems today, under a different administration.

All too true, but unfortunately, some people (and for our sakes this hopefully isn't too large a number) just aren't going to learn anything unless they are hit hard between the eyes. I would much rather that this not happen, but....

I hate the idea of "choosing the lesser of two evils", because we still end up with an albatross instead of an eagle.

If GWB doesn't tone down the spending of our tax dollars domestically, the coming election may turn out to be just that. But still, he'd be a better choice than any of the likely alternatives.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-1-20 1:58:05 PM|| 2004-1-20 1:58:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Looks like using the f-word was a winning strategy after all. Can't wait to see what Dean tries next.....oops, that's right, we saw it last night .

Posted by Rex Mundi 2004-1-20 2:25:21 PM|| 2004-1-20 2:25:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Dean was toast when the interview of him berating the Iowa caucuses on Canadian TV becaome public

You're welcome :)

Posted by Rafael 2004-1-20 2:40:59 PM|| 2004-1-20 2:40:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 If Kerry wins in NH and starts to pull ahead decisively ahead, we will see my prediction of a few months ago come to pass: the pop-culture lefty fruitbat element will pull out all the stops to de-legitimize the result, leading to a figurative and conceivably a literal bloodbath at the Dem Convention.
Tin-foil Kucinich was the fruitbats' first choice with the thorazine-deprived Dean as a best second.
If the Convention cannot be intimidated into major concessions for the Moonbats, they will desert to the Greens.
I say good riddance, though more timid souls will probably cave in the best tradition of lefty post-60s appeasement-think.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2004-1-20 5:08:00 PM|| [http://www.nuclearspace.com] 2004-1-20 5:08:00 PM|| Front Page Top

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