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2004-01-15 -Short Attention Span Theater-
Witch King "Slain"
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Posted by Korora 2004-01-15 12:08:31 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ...Would thisss be from Reutersss, my...precioussss...?

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-1-15 12:42:10 AM||   2004-1-15 12:42:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Al-reuters refuses to use the term "witch king" and instead refers to him as 'The Duly Elected Wiccan President of Minas Morgul and Angmar'.
Posted by 4thInfVet 2004-1-15 12:42:57 AM||   2004-1-15 12:42:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 'The Duly Elected Wiccan President of Minas Morgul and Angmar'

Lol! And I suppose he's from the Republic of Mordor, which is a beautiful country filled with innocent goblins and orcs?
Posted by Anonymous 2004-1-15 2:22:31 AM||   2004-1-15 2:22:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I suppose Barad Dur is just a li'l old cultural monument, too.
Posted by Mike  2004-1-15 8:39:45 AM||   2004-1-15 8:39:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 just to point out anon, this is a war against SAURON, not against the ORCS. (Seriously, in LOTR it says that after the victory King Aragon sets aside part of Mordor for the Orcs and Trolls to live in - Tolkien werent no pacifist, but he werent no genocidaire either)
Posted by liberalhawk 2004-1-15 9:09:13 AM||   2004-1-15 9:09:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Yeah? Then why didn't he let the ents find their chicks?

FANGORN NEEDS WOMEN!
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-1-15 9:30:41 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-1-15 9:30:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 LH: Seriously, in LOTR it says that after the victory King Aragon sets aside part of Mordor for the Orcs and Trolls to live in...

Oh, I see. A reservation. And what will happen when mithril is found on the reservation, hmmm? What about the rights of the orcs and trolls then?
Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-1-15 9:58:17 AM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2004-1-15 9:58:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 No Blood for Mithril!
Posted by Steve  2004-1-15 11:21:32 AM||   2004-1-15 11:21:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 how about Sap for Mithril? We could send in the Ents and the dark trees again.

Posted by rkb  2004-1-15 12:09:58 PM||   2004-1-15 12:09:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Is anybody but me bored of the rings?
Posted by Shipman 2004-1-15 1:14:52 PM||   2004-1-15 1:14:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Shipman--The Harvard Lampoon was, back in 1969:

"Toes. I love hairy toes," she moaned, forcing him down on the silvered carpet. Her tiny, pink toes caressed the luxuriant fur of his instep..."
Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-1-15 1:24:03 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2004-1-15 1:24:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 LOL! Seems like HL did one on the Dessert Planet too.
Posted by Shipman 2004-1-15 1:28:44 PM||   2004-1-15 1:28:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Actually Aragorn set aside part of Mordor (the only fertile part, the areas around lake Nurnen) for the "slaves of Mordor".

***
And the King pardoned the Easterlings that had given themselves up, sent them away free, and he made peace with the peoples of Harad; and the slaves of Mordor he released and gave to them all the lands about Lake Nurnen to be their own.
***

When reading this, I felt it to mean the human slaves of Mordor, though it is perhaps slightly ambiguous.

The matter of Orcs is a complicated one, which Tolkien himself philosophically (and theologically) strove with near the end of his life -- and probably too long and (even more) off-topic to discuss here.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-1-15 1:40:59 PM||   2004-1-15 1:40:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Kinda like the Jihadis and Paleo bombers. They have been programmed to kill and destroy. Reprogramming them will require all the kings horses and men, so to speak. Heh heh.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-1-15 6:28:51 PM||   2004-1-15 6:28:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Aris, remember that Gandalf pitied even his slaves. And Orcs were 'bred' in the 1st age by Morgoth / Melkor by tormenting, twisting, and torturing elves.
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-1-15 11:00:37 PM||   2004-1-15 11:00:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 ...Would thisss be from Reutersss, my...precioussss...?

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-1-15 12:42:10 AM||   2004-1-15 12:42:10 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 Al-reuters refuses to use the term "witch king" and instead refers to him as 'The Duly Elected Wiccan President of Minas Morgul and Angmar'.
Posted by 4thInfVet 2004-1-15 12:42:57 AM||   2004-1-15 12:42:57 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 'The Duly Elected Wiccan President of Minas Morgul and Angmar'

Lol! And I suppose he's from the Republic of Mordor, which is a beautiful country filled with innocent goblins and orcs?
Posted by Anonymous 2004-1-15 2:22:31 AM||   2004-1-15 2:22:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 I suppose Barad Dur is just a li'l old cultural monument, too.
Posted by Mike  2004-1-15 8:39:45 AM||   2004-1-15 8:39:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#20 just to point out anon, this is a war against SAURON, not against the ORCS. (Seriously, in LOTR it says that after the victory King Aragon sets aside part of Mordor for the Orcs and Trolls to live in - Tolkien werent no pacifist, but he werent no genocidaire either)
Posted by liberalhawk 2004-1-15 9:09:13 AM||   2004-1-15 9:09:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#21 Yeah? Then why didn't he let the ents find their chicks?

FANGORN NEEDS WOMEN!
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-1-15 9:30:41 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2004-1-15 9:30:41 AM|| Front Page Top

#22 LH: Seriously, in LOTR it says that after the victory King Aragon sets aside part of Mordor for the Orcs and Trolls to live in...

Oh, I see. A reservation. And what will happen when mithril is found on the reservation, hmmm? What about the rights of the orcs and trolls then?
Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-1-15 9:58:17 AM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2004-1-15 9:58:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#23 No Blood for Mithril!
Posted by Steve  2004-1-15 11:21:32 AM||   2004-1-15 11:21:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#24 how about Sap for Mithril? We could send in the Ents and the dark trees again.

Posted by rkb  2004-1-15 12:09:58 PM||   2004-1-15 12:09:58 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 Is anybody but me bored of the rings?
Posted by Shipman 2004-1-15 1:14:52 PM||   2004-1-15 1:14:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 Shipman--The Harvard Lampoon was, back in 1969:

"Toes. I love hairy toes," she moaned, forcing him down on the silvered carpet. Her tiny, pink toes caressed the luxuriant fur of his instep..."
Posted by Angie Schultz 2004-1-15 1:24:03 PM|| [http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]  2004-1-15 1:24:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 LOL! Seems like HL did one on the Dessert Planet too.
Posted by Shipman 2004-1-15 1:28:44 PM||   2004-1-15 1:28:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#28 Actually Aragorn set aside part of Mordor (the only fertile part, the areas around lake Nurnen) for the "slaves of Mordor".

***
And the King pardoned the Easterlings that had given themselves up, sent them away free, and he made peace with the peoples of Harad; and the slaves of Mordor he released and gave to them all the lands about Lake Nurnen to be their own.
***

When reading this, I felt it to mean the human slaves of Mordor, though it is perhaps slightly ambiguous.

The matter of Orcs is a complicated one, which Tolkien himself philosophically (and theologically) strove with near the end of his life -- and probably too long and (even more) off-topic to discuss here.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2004-1-15 1:40:59 PM||   2004-1-15 1:40:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#29 Kinda like the Jihadis and Paleo bombers. They have been programmed to kill and destroy. Reprogramming them will require all the kings horses and men, so to speak. Heh heh.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-1-15 6:28:51 PM||   2004-1-15 6:28:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#30 Aris, remember that Gandalf pitied even his slaves. And Orcs were 'bred' in the 1st age by Morgoth / Melkor by tormenting, twisting, and torturing elves.
Posted by CrazyFool  2004-1-15 11:00:37 PM||   2004-1-15 11:00:37 PM|| Front Page Top

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