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We already had a Kucinich â Who needed Clark?

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Posted by Gasse Katze 2004-01-10 4:45:08 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I'm not an American and don't normally comment on american politics, but I also find Wesley Clark creepy. Lacking both credibility and judgement. I keep thinking of the the British generals comment to him in Kosovo ' Do you want to start world war III?'

Posted by phil_b 2004-1-10 7:31:14 AM|| 2004-1-10 7:31:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 âGeorge W. Bush is going to run on his war record.â"

There other examples of Clark hipocrisy,but this one stands-out.

Most of Clark's campaign adds are based on his war record.

Posted by raptor 2004-1-10 9:21:10 AM|| 2004-1-10 9:21:10 AM|| Front Page Top

I'm not an American and don't normally comment on american politics

Don't let that stop you, phil_b - jump right in.

I am an American, and I see Clark as a prissy, self-centered, egotistical opportunist who's letting himself be used as a front for the Clintons. You know, the Clintons who fired him from his NATO command? And yet, he continues to lick their... um, boots. Creepy is a nice word for him.

I wonder if anyone's told him that he's personally responsible for his campaign debts if he doesn't raise enough money to cover them? What, you think the Clintoons will pay for them? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-1-10 9:31:48 AM|| 2004-1-10 9:31:48 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Gen. Clark makes me nervous.... but to be fair so does his Republican counterpart... the right honorable Admiral McCain. I think they're both border-line psycos.

I'd vote for Powell or Schwartzkoff tho... And way O/T I hear B-1 Bob is considering running again... is he really a Black Ace?

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-10 9:32:53 AM|| 2004-1-10 9:32:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 And before you ask, yes, I spelled "Clintoons" correctly. :-p

Posted by Barbara Skolaut 2004-1-10 9:33:38 AM|| 2004-1-10 9:33:38 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 ...I know folks who worked for Weasely. Even the most liberal of them took out Republican party cards when they found out he was running for President.
And McCain isn't that bad of a guy either, but his problem is that he's too much like his father and grandfather - hardchargers who never learned the word 'no'.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2004-1-10 10:11:04 AM|| 2004-1-10 10:11:04 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 MK Grandfather?

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-10 10:58:05 AM|| 2004-1-10 10:58:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Shipman:

Adm. John Sidney McCain Sr., the senator's grandfather, was an aviator who earned his wings at the late age of 52 and commanded Adm. William "Bull" Halsey's famed fast carrier task force in the Pacific. Immediately after the Japanese surrender, he returned to California and, at a family welcoming-home party, collapsed and died. He was renowned "as one of the Navy's best plain and fancy cussers." He smoked (rolling Bull Durham cigarettes with one hand), drank and gambled at every opportunity -- a colorful man and a respected leader.

The senator's father, Adm. John Sidney McCain Jr., was a World War II submariner awarded the Navy Cross. He would go on to become commander in chief of Pacific forces, known as CINC-PAC, a position he assumed in the summer of 1968 as his son reposed in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" prison, having been shot down and severely injured in a raid on the North Vietnamese capital.

(cribbed from an on-line review of "Faith of my Fathers")

Posted by Anonymous 2004-1-10 11:12:02 AM|| 2004-1-10 11:12:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Barbara, if he runs short of cash his book will go top ten as unkown folks can buy it, at retail, by the bushel. HILLARY has been doing that. O'Rielly is shouting about this and he's probably right. Campaign tricksters.

Posted by Lucky 2004-1-10 12:22:02 PM|| 2004-1-10 12:22:02 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Clintoon...as in Poltroon?

Posted by Sgt.D.T. 2004-1-10 12:44:54 PM|| 2004-1-10 12:44:54 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Didn't "Fort Worthless" Jim Wright lose his house speaker job over a similar ruse?
Newt Grinrich. Call your office.

Also, I forgot to tip the hat to Andrew Sullivan for pointing out this article.

Posted by Gasse Katze 2004-1-10 1:22:53 PM|| 2004-1-10 1:22:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 For the record, phil_b, remember that Gen. [ret] Tommy Franks (CDRCENTCOM) explicitly refused to support Clark, and former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Hugh Shelton explicitly said that Clark was relieved early "for questions of integrity and character" -- one of the most damning indictments of Clark's fitness to be in the US Army ...

Posted by Lu Baihu 2004-1-10 2:35:16 PM|| 2004-1-10 2:35:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Thanks anon... thought TF 38 McCain was his father.... not grandfather.

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-10 2:39:29 PM|| 2004-1-10 2:39:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 The problem with Clark is that he takes after his semi-namesake from the last war, Gen. Mark Clark.

Like Mark Clark, he's more worried about his place in the history books than he is about the people around him. Mark Clark screwed up the invasion of Italy because he was afraid that Patton and MacArthur would get all the glory before HE could grab a share. Wesley Clark is much the same.

His first, last, and ONLY priority is his personal fame and glory. All else comes a distant second to that goal. And if that means screwing over the little people, his thoughts on the matter run something along the lines of "Hey, they should be GLAD that I'm allowing them the honor of dying for me!"

Hell, in the service, the general attitude among the enlisted (I know, I was there) was that the man's only true love was his reflection in the mirror.

Ed.

Posted by Ed Becerra 2004-1-10 8:26:05 PM|| 2004-1-10 8:26:05 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 clark IS gen. jack d. ripper from dr. strangelove

Posted by SON OF TOLUI 2004-1-10 9:39:57 PM|| 2004-1-10 9:39:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Hell Son of Tolui I was all set to vote against Clark till you mentioned Gen. Ripper. :)

Posted by Shipman 2004-1-10 11:22:35 PM|| 2004-1-10 11:22:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Retired U.S. General H. Hugh Shelton, former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff:

"I've known Wes for a long time. I will tell you the reason he came out of Europe early had to do with integrity and character issues, things that are very near and dear to my heart. I'm not going to say whether I'm a Republican or a Democrat. I'll just say Wes won't get my vote."

Posted by ed 2004-1-11 12:40:41 AM|| 2004-1-11 12:40:41 AM|| Front Page Top

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