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2003-12-22 Terror Networks
Talibs say Binny’s gonna go down fighting
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Posted by Dan Darling 2003-12-22 12:13:03 AM|| || Front Page|| [11131 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 I still strongly believe that Osama is alive, although I'm probably in the minority on this blog.
I doubt we will get him any time soon, but it will happen eventually. One only has to look at Bosnia, where Radovan Karadzic is still on the run 8 years after the end of the civil war, because he is hiding in a sympathetic region which NATO hasn't been able to crack.
Posted by Paul Moloney 2003-12-22 12:18:27 AM||   2003-12-22 12:18:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#2  I tend to share your belief on this one, Paul, though I've always thought of him as being in Iran. That seems to be where his family is, where his military commander is, as well as his main spiritual advisor (the Mauritanian) plus God knows how many cannon fodder. Then again, I also think that the global terror machine is a lot more centralized than most analysts - last fall's terror offensive (to deter the West from attacking Iraq?) proved that in of itself from my POV.

I figure right now bin Laden, if he's alive, is hopping back and forth between Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Iran and leaving periodically as the political or military situation deems necessary. Same thing with Ayman, IMO.
Posted by Dan Darling  2003-12-22 12:24:18 AM|| [http://www.regnumcrucis.blogspot.com]  2003-12-22 12:24:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 We pursued Binny with one tied behind our back. Alot of the warlords troops did not pursue with as much enthusiasm as we expected from their pay. If we want to pull out the stops, we can make the local tribesmen's lives a living hell. We will pick our time, place, and circumstances as the situation permits. After all, the tribal area folks description of their situation was very similar to Afghanistan before we went in there.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-12-22 1:37:42 AM||   2003-12-22 1:37:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 â€¦and in related news, despite outward appearances some pond scum never evolved past being scum.
Posted by Hyper 2003-12-22 2:00:11 AM||   2003-12-22 2:00:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 [Karadzic] is hiding in a sympathetic region

You mean, like, EUrope?
Posted by Rafael 2003-12-22 2:02:42 AM||   2003-12-22 2:02:42 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Rafael> Does your "EUrope" actually have a meaning anymore, other than trolling? Because you clearly don't mean it to signify the EU.

Or perhaps you just don't know that neither Bosnia nor Serbia-Montenegro are part of the EU?
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2003-12-22 6:50:53 AM||   2003-12-22 6:50:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 As for bin Laden, if he's alive, he should produce a new videotape that mentions some minor recent news. You know, like Saddam being captured and Libya turning coat on the AoE. He doesn't even have to give his location away: with a little effort, he could be shot in front of a bluescreen, and his pals at al'Jazeera could make it appear like he's in Afghanista, Pakistan, the Oval Office, or even Corascant.

Until then, he's dead.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2003-12-22 8:20:53 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com]  2003-12-22 8:20:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Instead of trying to reanimate bin Laden's stiff corpse, Al-Jazeera could create a video using a bin Laden puppet, like those old Gerry Anderson shows I watched as a kid that featured "Supermarionation".
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-12-22 10:55:31 AM||   2003-12-22 10:55:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 Binny's Buddies talk a BIG game (all islamists do) but that talk ceases when they are met with force. Ditto for Karazdic. Both are presumed to be hiding in plain site. Karazdic is alive ONLY due to the efforts of Clinton and the EU leadership. If we wanted to kill him he would be so much worm food by now. Binny may be alive because we are still exploiting his communications. When that well runs dry we will get rid of him. Bet on it.
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2003-12-22 11:07:54 AM||   2003-12-22 11:07:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I like the puppet idea.

How about Mr. Bill, Sluggo and Osama with Sluggo looking for Osama who then escapes while Sluggo beats up Mr. Bill by mistake.

This would probably be considered as proof that Osama is alive by at least 70% of the Muslim world.
Posted by mhw 2003-12-22 11:09:02 AM||   2003-12-22 11:09:02 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 I think Rafael meant "EUrope" as a humorous interjection, with a grain of truth.

Lighten up.
Posted by Les Nessman  2003-12-22 12:19:45 PM||   2003-12-22 12:19:45 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Less Nessman> That doesn't make sense.

If he had written "Europe" alone, that'd be a joke with a grain of truth in it. Now that he wrote "EUrope", I have no idea what the joke is supposed to mean.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2003-12-22 12:47:23 PM||   2003-12-22 12:47:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Come on Aris, you can't be this naive. You damn well know what it meant. But just to clarify, I was alluding to France and The Netherlands. Both are members of the EU. One fucked up majorly in Srebrnica, the other was being an obstructive fuck (as usual) in putting an end to the bloodshed.
I know that in your supreme EU mind we are all stupid here, but most of us do know EUropean geography. Fuck your EU.
Posted by Rafael 2003-12-22 2:34:53 PM||   2003-12-22 2:34:53 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 You're new here Les. Don't waste your time. Kat must be feeling pissy right now.
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2003-12-22 2:35:22 PM||   2003-12-22 2:35:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#15  #13 Oh hell, that tore it!
Posted by whitecollar redneck 2003-12-22 2:36:26 PM||   2003-12-22 2:36:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Come on Rafael, where is your Christmas spirit??
Posted by True German Ally 2003-12-22 3:02:57 PM||   2003-12-22 3:02:57 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 The Grinch stole it :) The EU hasn't been on my Christmas card list ever since they tried to change the voting rules. No Christmas card for Chiraq & Schroeder. Oops, I mean, no Xmas card for Chiraq and no Christmas card for Schroeder. For Aris: the "Grinch" refers to the EU.
Posted by Rafael 2003-12-22 3:22:21 PM||   2003-12-22 3:22:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 but also to make sure that if "the sheik" can’t escape, he is quickly "martyred" and his body destroyed.
I too vote "Dead, until confirmed otherwise", but what I read here is that the plan, if he is killed, is to destroy his body quickly. Would that not have been the case in Tora Bora, when I feel he was whacked?
Posted by Capsu78 2003-12-22 3:32:37 PM||   2003-12-22 3:32:37 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Rafael -- Why didn't you just say "Fuck EU!" to Aris? That's what the Poles said about the propsed EU constitution.
Posted by Tibor 2003-12-22 7:00:21 PM||   2003-12-22 7:00:21 PM|| Front Page Top

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