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2003-12-05 Europe

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Posted by Dan Darling 2003-12-05 12:08:55 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 "NATO has considered assuming control of operations in Afghanistan from the United States, but the move has been hampered by a lack of equipment and personnel."

-WTF? I've never been stationed in the ETO so am wondering just how dilapidated our NATO allies military capabilities have become. Not enough personnel? You gotta be kidding me.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-12-5 9:33:08 AM|| 2003-12-5 9:33:08 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The Czech's in the mail....

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-12-5 10:28:47 AM|| 2003-12-5 10:28:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Jarhead - European nations, with the notable exception of Britain and the Danes, have relied almost exclusively on the United States protecting them. The Germans haven't added any new tanks since the Leopard, which is now almost thirty years old. More than half the European military are now unionized. You can guess how well that works. Most believed that, with the collapse of the Soviet Union, there were no more enemies, and they could use their defense budgets for social programs. I'm constantly reminded of something Robert Heinlein said (paraphrased) in Starship Troopers: "Those that 'ain't gonna study war no more' will soon be the slaves of someone who does."

The more the Europeans become "sophisticated and erudite", the stoopider they behave.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-12-5 12:19:33 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-12-5 12:19:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 OP, not much of an organization w/the big three and the little twelve or whatever they have now.

Good Heinlein reference. Great book, shitty movie. Chesty Puller once said something similar about being constantly vigilant and always training, or be prepared when the time comes that we are taken over and bred out by a more hearty race.

Posted by Jarhead 2003-12-5 2:45:51 PM|| 2003-12-5 2:45:51 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 JH where was that C Puller theory/thing from...? Sure sounds like him. Every time I'm in a certain bar in Ft. Lauderdale I have to buy beer for a one eyed man who claims he was Chester's personal bodyguard... who knows.

Posted by Shipman 2003-12-5 7:08:13 PM|| 2003-12-5 7:08:13 PM|| Front Page Top

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