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2003-11-10 Middle East

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Posted by Sorge 2003-11-10 1:15:30 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 No doubt there are legit concerns with the deal. Remember however that of the 400 prisoners, some will be Israeli agents who will have a chance to get close to some real Hizb biggies. Also, some of the 400 will go to Paleo camps in Lebanon and scout out the AlQ and Hamas presense there.

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Posted by mhw 2003-11-10 7:51:37 AM|| 2003-11-10 7:51:37 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 "Remember however that of the 400 prisoners, some will be Israeli agents who will have a chance to get close to some real Hizb biggies"

You really don't know that for certain. You are just hoping. I do hope you are right, but it's again just that: a hope.

Posted by Aris Katsaris 2003-11-10 8:13:22 AM|| 2003-11-10 8:13:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 as I noted yesterday, the Hizb paranoia will kill many of these prisoners. They don't know who turned or not...

Posted by Frank G 2003-11-10 8:47:27 AM|| 2003-11-10 8:47:27 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Here's another option:
Israeli Defense Minister, Shaul Mofaz, has hinted that his country was ready to stage a massive hostage-taking campaign against Lebanon that could include the abduction of Hizbullah Secretary-General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah. Israeli newspapers said Monday the mood of Ariel Sharon's cabinet is one of wresting the abduction initiative from Hizbullah by kidnapping scores of Lebanese figures, including high-ranking Hizbullah leaders, if Nasrallah rejects the last-minute terms the Israeli cabinet has added to the swap deal. According to Monday's reports, Mofaz had, when he was army chief of staff, drawn a carefully thoughtout plan for the abduction of Nasrallah from his headquarters in south Beirut, but that the government at the time refused to approve this plan.
The resurrection of Nasrallah's abduction is seen by Israeli media analysts as a psychological gimmick designed to terrorize Nasrallah into taking Israel's new stance on the swap deal into careful consideration and avert a reckless reaction. They are convinced that Israel would never be able to grab the heavily guarded Nasrallah.

Posted by Steve 2003-11-10 9:01:21 AM|| 2003-11-10 9:01:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Israel should have problems sending its own agents with the group. Remember these are prisoners Hizbollah asked for, and so are unlikely to be turned.

Posted by Sorge 2003-11-10 9:07:54 AM|| [http://www.forgottenfronts.com/] 2003-11-10 9:07:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Implants, buddy, implants.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2003-11-10 9:25:28 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2003-11-10 9:25:28 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 If I had 400 insane prisoners, I would get rid of them too. The cost of the meds...

Posted by john 2003-11-10 9:49:18 AM|| 2003-11-10 9:49:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Israeli Defense Minister, Shaul Mofaz, has hinted that his country was ready to stage a massive hostage-taking campaign against Lebanon that could include the abduction of Hizbullah Secretary-General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah.

If the trade ratio currently is 400:1, what do you get for snatching Nasrallah?

They are convinced that Israel would never be able to grab the heavily guarded Nasrallah.

But if he fights to the death during the attempt would that be a bad thing? And if his bodyguards defended him with all their blood (minimum 4 liters each), would that be so terrible?

Posted by Steve White 2003-11-10 11:37:21 AM|| 2003-11-10 11:37:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 I sure hope that Israel has a Brilliant Planâ¢ behind this swap, because on the surface, it seems insane. My little voice that keeps me alive says this is all wrong. I hope my little voice is wrong this time.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-11-10 11:47:40 AM|| 2003-11-10 11:47:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Four hundred prisoners, many of them have killed Israelis already

The news this AM said the deal was that the 400 to be exchanged did not kill anybody. The current sticking point is that Hamas changed the terms of the deal to demand the release of some Mo that actually has killed somebody, and the Israelis will not release him.

Posted by Carl in N.H. 2003-11-10 12:12:41 PM|| 2003-11-10 12:12:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 d'oh - for "Hamas" in the above read "Hizbullah". Yeah, I can't keep them straight, good thing the nation's security does not depend on me...

Posted by Carl in N.H. 2003-11-10 12:14:29 PM|| 2003-11-10 12:14:29 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Carl; the 400 prisoners have not been convicted of killing Israelis, that's rather differnent that not having actually killed Israelis.

Posted by Sorge 2003-11-10 12:18:12 PM|| [http://www.forgottenfronts.com/] 2003-11-10 12:18:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 ..the 400 prisoners have not been convicted of killing Israelis,

They haven't killed any Israelis YET. This exchange is likely to provide a second chance (and more, even) to remedy that little oversight....

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-11-10 2:14:56 PM|| 2003-11-10 2:14:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Before release, I would surgically insert a C-4 capsule into the base of their neck. Put a radio chip w/it. Kind of like a dog collar & an invisible fence. If they attempt to come back into Irsaeli territory the C-4 explodes enough to take their head clean off but that's about it. Human rights' f*cks would bitch but it would be damn funny to see.......

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-10 3:00:06 PM|| 2003-11-10 3:00:06 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Jarhead, you've been watching "Running Man". Of course, that was a collar around their neck. Just implant a tracking device, or just start a rumor that you did.

Posted by Steve 2003-11-10 4:34:00 PM|| 2003-11-10 4:34:00 PM|| Front Page Top

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