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2003-11-04 Iraq

David Brooks: Iraq is "A Burden Too Heavy to Put Down"

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Posted by Mike 2003-11-04 6:45:46 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 OK Saddam was not a nice guy, but was that reason enough to occupy Iraq? What about a dozen of African nations where the situation is uncomparable much more worse? Their difference? Of course oil.

What about Saudia Arabia, Kuwait and the Emirates where slavery still exists? Is there nobody who cares about the child slaves who are drilled to become Camel jokeys at ages of 6 just for the plessure of the fat Arabs oil sheiks, no of course not they are allies and have good relations with American oil companies, texas, Aramco etc. etc

Posted by Murat 2003-11-4 7:06:51 AM|| 2003-11-4 7:06:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 The answer to your blatantly stupid question, murat, is YES, YES, YES!

Pompous Windbag, we'll follow OUR own schedule for liberating the world, NOT the fuck yours!

Posted by Ptah 2003-11-4 7:32:29 AM|| [http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org] 2003-11-4 7:32:29 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 and speaking of child slaves, it took many decades to liberate the Greeks from the Turks, the latter of which made a practice of taking Greek kids and making Islamic slave soldiers out of them - yes it should have been done faster but eventually it was done

Posted by mhw 2003-11-4 8:12:53 AM|| 2003-11-4 8:12:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 Murat, you forgot to mention the eunuchs in Arabia. Do you still have eunuchs in Turkey?

Posted by Gasse Katze 2003-11-4 8:29:24 AM|| 2003-11-4 8:29:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 "OK Saddam was not a nice guy, but was that reason enough to occupy Iraq?"

-Yes. He's gone, we're there, quit crying over spilled milk.......bwhahaha

"What about a dozen of African nations where the situation is uncomparable much more worse?"

-Last time I checked Uganda wasn't trying to buy long range missiles from NKor. BTW - In the last 10 years we (U.S. Marines) have been in Sierra Leone, Central Africa, Ivory Coast, Congo, Yemen, & Tanzania. We have done disaster relief, flood relief, quelled violence toward the populace, protected our embassies to include foreign nationals, and in general un-fucked the place where we could. We were also in your country in '99 helping with disaster relief after that earthquake hit you all. It doesn't get much press coverage but it happens. Don't seem to remember any arab countries sending troops to africa.

"Their difference? Of course oil."

-True, but that's just a bonus :)

"What about Saudia Arabia, Kuwait and the Emirates where slavery still exists?"

-What about them? Have they ever pursued WMDs or made threats to the U.S. - NO. So it sounds like an Arab problem. If you all are so upset about it, then how about putting your own house in order? Or are you saying you need Uncle Sugar (U.S.) to fix you? We can only take on one to two assholes at a time. BTW - Don't justify Saddam's behavior because there's other bad behaviour going on in the Emirates, S.A., or wherever. We'll never get anywhere w/that logic. I guess we should never confront Nkor either because Iran has asshole mullahs running the place, or why are we picking on Iran when the Malaysians have people doing the same thing, blah, blah, blah. Go on for days w/that crap.

"Is there nobody who cares about the child slaves who are drilled to become Camel jokeys at ages of 6 just for the plessure of the fat Arabs oil sheiks, no of course not they are allies and have good relations with American oil companies, texas, Aramco etc. etc"

-ah yes, It's all the American's fault again. Of course you Muslims are powerless to police your own countries. No accountability, just whine and seethe, that's about your speed. Blame it on the Yankees when Muslims abuse their own children, that's a good one. We can't right the wrongs of the world at one time. But we can take care of one asshat dicator at a time. Has the human rights people made an issue of this Camel Jockey thing (no joke intended) yet? Doubtful, they're too busy worrying about the treatment of scumbags in Cuba....

Posted by Jarhead 2003-11-4 9:26:58 AM|| 2003-11-4 9:26:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 muRat's just playing the LLL distraction game: accuse others of what YOU are guilty of to put them on the defensive and obfuscate as much as possible.

ISLAM is why they have / had slaves. Islam sez it's OKAY. Little Mikey set up a few rules, however - when it's okay to kill them, how you must treat them as well as your other livestock, etc. But it's defintely OKAY TO HAVE THEM.

WE, primarily the US, will be the reason if they finally ABANDON slavery. It is because of us that they finally passed a law against it and because of us that they finally bought their freedom from the Royals - pretty much the only slaveholders in SA back then - way back in the mid-70's. It has come back since there are non-Royals with oodles of cash, but we whack 'em about it regulalrly. What does Turkey do? Ever see Midnight Express? There ya go.

Slavery is endemic in muRat's world, the world of the RoP. His history is FULL of slavery. His people were the imperialists, the looters, pillagers, rapists. He is the one with the chip on his should the size of a railroad tie. Thousands of years and millions of examples. We, on the other hand, abolished it before we were old enough to even have a history. We fought a fucking war over it to make SURE it was wiped out. He's just being muRat, disingenuous asshole, fool, gloat, and all-around jerkoff.

Re the eunuchs... add in the covering of women and their lack of rights, their testimony only being worth half of a man's, their needing 4 witnesses to accuse a man of anything, Islam's approval of female castration, use of women to settle clan grievances under Sharia, Honor killings - the whole deal and ask yourself what it adds up to:
Men who are skeered someone will take their pet cow away from them. Men who afraid of their women. Men who are afraid of other men. Men who are afraid, period. Men who aren't really men. Pussies. Cheesedicks. Cowards. Fools. Wimps. LOSERS. Y'know, the kind of people who gloat over the death of real men. Men worth a thousand of his ilk. Dat be Islam Man. Dat be muRat. Gutless turd extraordinaire.

Of course, I don't have any strong opinions on the matter.

Posted by .com 2003-11-4 9:47:01 AM|| 2003-11-4 9:47:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 I deem thee abu trolltosser

Posted by Shipman 2003-11-4 10:07:33 AM|| 2003-11-4 10:07:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 OK Saddam was not a nice guy, but was that reason enough to occupy Iraq?

"Not a nice guy"? That's a rather mild way of putting it.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-11-4 10:27:36 AM|| 2003-11-4 10:27:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 This is amazing. Really.

I think I just found myself agreeing with our lovable Turkish friend Murat on something. (Must be a Sign of the Apocalypse or some such.)

Murat writes: What about Saudia Arabia, Kuwait and the Emirates where slavery still exists? Is there nobody who cares about the child slaves who are drilled to become Camel jokeys at ages of 6 just for the plessure of the fat Arabs oil sheiks . . . ?

To the extent you're suggesting that we should invade Saudi Arabia and liberate the peninsula by destroying the House of Sa'ud, I couldn't agree more. Let us send three or four divisions in, hunt down all the adult male "princes" of the House of Sa'ud, and string them all up from the lamp-posts of Riyadh. Let us strangle the last Wahabbi imam with the entrails of the last of the "religious police."

You with me on that, Murat old buddy?

Posted by Mike 2003-11-4 10:39:43 AM|| 2003-11-4 10:39:43 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 What about Saudia Arabia?

Now? Are you kidding?

Why should we kill our own economy before the oil from Iraq can replace what will be lost from Saudia Arabia?

Just wait a little bit Murat and some of your wish may come true.

Posted by Daniel King 2003-11-4 10:48:59 AM|| 2003-11-4 10:48:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Once again I am in Murat's debt for providing valuable jibberish! The more he speaks, the more convinced I am of two things:

1. Leftist thinking is as good as dead. Murat offers nothing new, but regurgitates the same old leftie tripe, with an occasional new name inserted, such as...

What about Saudia Arabia, Kuwait and the Emirates where slavery still exists?

...always pathetic questions, no legitimate answers offered or acceptance of resopnsibility; just like any other serious issue you might name,the left has no legitimate answers. People put up with this sort of intellectually feeble blathering for just so long before dumping them into the ashbin of history. I just takes time.

2. Islam today smells like Christianity about a thousand years ago. Considering that the Arab culture and religion is in that early stage of natural evolution, Murat does pretty well with the limited tools he has.

The real difference between Islam and Christianity is that technology (especially communications) will require Islam to evolve at a much greater pace than was required of Christianity.

Regardless of all that crap, contemporary Islamic people, clerics, and governments had better start actively and loudly separating themselves from the sick f*cks that contemporary America is in the process of smashing, that is unless they have a smashing fettish.

By the way Murat, my Armenian great-grandmother escaped the slaughter and came to America, she ensured future generations of her family incredible oportunities. Number one on the list of blessings I count is being born in the United States of America. I donât blame anyone else for my past, or my own failures. Stop whining, be a man, and take your future into your own hands.

Posted by Hyper 2003-11-4 11:09:50 AM|| 2003-11-4 11:09:50 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Murat is Rantburg's Tony Foresta - for those who read Daily Pundit, you'll agree....

Posted by Frank G 2003-11-4 11:18:20 AM|| 2003-11-4 11:18:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 What about Saudia Arabia, Kuwait and the Emirates where slavery still exists?

Patience, grasshopper, patience.

Posted by Steve White 2003-11-4 11:18:54 AM|| 2003-11-4 11:18:54 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 Murat is Rantburg's Tony Foresta - for those who read Daily Pundit, you'll agree....

Please, no need to really insult Murat now.... ;)

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-11-4 12:28:52 PM|| 2003-11-4 12:28:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Murat, if it was about the oil we would be taking over half the African countries because they have plenty of oil, but no military. We would also rule South America - I'ld leave out Bolivia; they have natural gas but they have a union of their coca farmers. There is something seriously wrong with them. Maybe Bulldog can provide plans to Hadrians wall before our Southern foray begins.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-11-4 1:37:14 PM|| 2003-11-4 1:37:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Murat - your such an idiot windbag. All your observations are about oil. Yes oil is the key to politics in the middle east. The United States cannot run off to every corner of the world and be the policeman. But when our national security is affected - then yes we will react. Your moral statements have no relevance.
If you are so concerned about the suffering of the people of world why don't you start in your own backyard - yes the Kurds. Your country tried to destroy a culture - forcing Kurdish schools to teach in Turkish, outlawing the Kurdish language, bombing Kurdish towns ... I could go on but you get the point. But then again you probably do not get the point , you are most likely a closet racist with liberal tendencies (Can't we all just get along - except for the Kurds).
Yes there are some despicable characters on the world scene some are worse than others. But not many that threaten the security of the western world - Saddam did and that is why he is on the lamb.
And you never mention the fact that Turkey profited off Saddam - oil pipelines that carry, now say it Mu Rat, oil - yes oil.

Posted by Dan 2003-11-4 1:58:43 PM|| 2003-11-4 1:58:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Uh Dan, did you mean "on the lamb" literally?

Posted by Not Mike Moore 2003-11-4 5:31:30 PM|| 2003-11-4 5:31:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Save it,muRat(aka Gollum)if you gave a damn then do something about it instead of whinning like a little girl.

Posted by Raptor 2003-11-4 7:08:19 PM|| 2003-11-4 7:08:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Not Mike Moore - just slang - he is on the run , running for his sweet ass.

Posted by Dan 2003-11-4 7:37:03 PM|| 2003-11-4 7:37:03 PM|| Front Page Top

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