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2003-10-27 Middle East

30 Years Since Egyptâs Victory Over Israel?

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Posted by tipper. 2003-10-27 9:11:34 AM|| || Front Page|| [4 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 ref. the Bulldog comment at 9:18

Posted by Brian 2003-10-27 9:17:14 AM|| 2003-10-27 9:17:14 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 By this measurement, it's been nearly 62 years since Japan's victory over the U.S. at Pearl Harbor...

Posted by snellenr 2003-10-27 9:30:51 AM|| 2003-10-27 9:30:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Ummmmmmmm... snellnr. They did beat us at Pearl Harbor.

Posted by tu3031 2003-10-27 9:34:36 AM|| 2003-10-27 9:34:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 tu -- no, they surprised us at Pearl Harbor. It's an important distinction to make when you try to understand the overall context -- and the point I was trying to make here...

I could take the first punch against a pro fighter I met on the street, and maybe give him a bruise. But I wouldn't throw the last punch in the fight...

Posted by snellenr 2003-10-27 9:56:15 AM|| 2003-10-27 9:56:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Man I love these alternate history stories... Is this link from Strategy Page?

Posted by Shipman 2003-10-27 10:05:40 AM|| 2003-10-27 10:05:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Man! I sure do love those victories where the enemy has my army surrounded and his troops further into my territory than the starting line of the war!

Crack cocaine, it ain't just for breakfast anymore.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2003-10-27 10:39:59 AM|| 2003-10-27 10:39:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 30 Years Since Egyptâs Victory Over Israel?

Uh huh. That explains why Israel gave back the Sinai in 1979.

Yep, they "won" thirty years ago all right.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-10-27 11:01:05 AM|| 2003-10-27 11:01:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 The ^*(^%*&%&^*&^ October 1973 war kept me from getting an all-expenses paid vacation to Israel from Uncle Sam. Yeah, I watched the Egyptians "destroy" Israel. What a load of crap. The Israelis had a long line of defenses spread out from the Mediterranean to the Red Sea, with a few additional outposts along the Red Sea down to Sharm al Shaik. The whole thing didn't amount to two batallions. It was a tripwire, nothing more.

The Egyptians managed to cross in three places, mainly because the Israeli Air Force was busy destroying the Air Forces of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan. As soon as the Arab air assets were destroyed, the main Israeli Army struck, and drove the Egyptians back into the Suez. The Egyptians lost almost half a million men, including more than 80,000 captured.

I have no idea who this Maj. G. K. Molton is. I spent the time between 1966 and 1991 in Air Force intelligence, and knew most of the guys that worked the Imagery side. His name doesn't stir any memories.

Posted by Old Patriot 2003-10-27 12:58:26 PM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm] 2003-10-27 12:58:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 The Egyptian Air Force also destroyed or damaged around a quarter of the Israeli Air Force during the war...

Yep. The Egyptians destroyed a quarter of the Israeli ammunition by bravely ramming it with their planes.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2003-10-27 1:52:19 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2003-10-27 1:52:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Hey, anyone who can deny the Holocaust or call 9/11 a US or Jooo plot or believe that Jooos Control the World (the moonbat list is quite impressive) can certainly believe this. The Arab world could be better described as Fantasia / Fantasy Land / Fantasy Island / ??? - your choice. And nothing but having their noses rubbed in it seems to work, either. So...

Posted by .com 2003-10-27 2:03:52 PM|| 2003-10-27 2:03:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Actually IDF aircraft losses were pretty severe - but not due to enemy air action. Everything to do with the Soviet designed and manned (?) sam belt. Once the Egyptians got to the edge of the sam umbrella it was good nite nurse. The IAF started taking SEAD seriously about then.

Posted by Shipman 2003-10-27 2:30:26 PM|| 2003-10-27 2:30:26 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Old Patriot, can you (or anybody else) recommend a good book on the '73 war? I wish Oren would do one like his '67 book.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2003-10-27 2:54:35 PM|| 2003-10-27 2:54:35 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Rats: I enjoyed "Two O'Clock War" by Walter J. Boyne. Subtitled "The 1973 Yom Kippur Conflict and the Airlift That Saved Israel", it uses the uses the establishment of the re-supply airlift as a framework for an interesting history of events before, during, and after the war.

It's available from Amazon...

Posted by snellenr 2003-10-27 3:16:03 PM|| 2003-10-27 3:16:03 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Was this article written by everyone's favorite Minister of Information?

Posted by Swiggles 2003-10-27 3:24:19 PM|| 2003-10-27 3:24:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Am reminded of the resounding victory of Field Marshal Paulus and the 6th Army at Stalingrad...
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Posted by borgboy 2003-10-27 9:19:21 PM|| 2003-10-27 9:19:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 Snellenr - Thanks for the suggestion!

Posted by Laurence of the Rats 2003-10-28 9:42:45 AM|| 2003-10-28 9:42:45 AM|| Front Page Top

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