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2003-10-16 Africa: Southern

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Posted by Steve 2003-10-16 10:00:41 AM|| || Front Page|| [8 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Let's keep the Zulus on our side.

Posted by Shipman 2003-10-16 10:24:59 AM|| 2003-10-16 10:24:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I believe I read somewhere that the other rapidly growing religion in Africa is evangelical Christianity. This should be an interesting mix.

Posted by John B 2003-10-16 12:01:56 PM|| 2003-10-16 12:01:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Mummar is expanding into Africa because he thinks the US doesn't really care if he builds a fiefdom to the South. The US demonstrated to him that our interests in the ME would thwart his efforts to be the new Salidin.
I am a little confused about the Sharia Law in Kenya. If Sharia Law is supposed to re-enforce morality throughout society, then why are all the
Kenyan judges being canned for corruption? Will throwing out these judges solve the problem, or just drive up the price of the bribes? Is the bribe acceptable in Islam - kind of like a repalcement for teh interest payment?
When you talk about child labor, don't leave out Nigeria. Saw a BBC article about 74 kids as young as 4 being freed from rock crushing duties in a granite pit.
I'm sure we can provide some manpower from Gitmo if the Nigerians still need their rocks pulverized manually.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-10-16 12:41:30 PM|| 2003-10-16 12:41:30 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Sorry, that was 74 freed.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-10-16 2:37:15 PM|| 2003-10-16 2:37:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Is the bribe acceptable in Islam - kind of like a replacement for the interest payment?

Sort of, Super Hose.. While interest, aka ursury, is supposedly forbidden in Islam, they have a rather neat way around it.

You can get a loan from someone, and they're forbidden to charge you interest. (ie, you borrow $100, you pay back only $100)

But late charges are NOT forbidden. So when a loan is made, there's an unspoken understanding between lender and borrower that the borrower will come in "late" to make a payment. (Late meaning something along the lines of "ohmyallah, it's 2pm, I was supposed to be there at 1:59...")

Then, the borrower is charged a "late fee" for not having made the payment on time. And if the late fee just happens to be the same amount that any interest might have been, hey, that's just one of those marvelous coincidences that Allah permits to happen in this wonderful world.

The entire process is winked at by the majority of Islam, with only the real psychos screaming about it.

Same goes for bribes. Bribes are forbidden, charitable donations are not. "I was just a little too busy to make it to a place where I could donate this money, your Honor.. will you please take it for me, and see that it's put to a charitable use?"

And it's just another one of those marvelous coincidences that the "most charitable use" that the judge could find was at his own home.

Funny how that works out, eh?

Ed Becerra

Posted by Ed Becerra 2003-10-16 3:47:49 PM|| 2003-10-16 3:47:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Ed, I wish my bank would wink wink - encourage me to make my payments late.

Thank you for the information about the interst loophole- the more I find out about people in the world the more facinating I find them.

Posted by Super Hose 2003-10-16 5:58:28 PM|| 2003-10-16 5:58:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Same goes for bribes. Bribes are forbidden, charitable donations are not.

Gifts aren't fobidden either. One of my sailors did something stupid in a Bahraini restaurant (cussed out the owner). Solved the problem by a)having him apologize in front of all and sundry and b) me buying dinner for the two Bahraini policemen and giving a large tip to the owner.

Posted by Pappy 2003-10-16 8:49:56 PM|| 2003-10-16 8:49:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 In other words, ED B--they are where the Catholic church was during the Middle Ages--interest was usury but the Jewish money lenders were allowed to charge interest--when the ruler got too far in the hole--he expelled the Jews or started an Inquisition/Pogrom

Posted by RonnieRaygun 2003-10-16 10:53:57 PM|| 2003-10-16 10:53:57 PM|| Front Page Top

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