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2003-10-15 Iraq
Standoff enters second day in Karbala
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Posted by Steve 2003-10-15 9:43:14 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 "Until now there have been no demonstrations of public support for this government, and as a result, I cannot create it," he told Al-Arabiya satellite news channel.

It's highly doubtful that a lack of support is going to put an end to the guy's ambitions. Standard operating procedure here is to pull back and wait for another opportunity to try again.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2003-10-15 10:18:39 AM||   2003-10-15 10:18:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Sounds like Sadr's hands may be dirty regarding some of the other crap that's been going on in Karbala and the surrounding area. Perhaps the Iraqi people need to whack this dude early, rather than let him get too deeply situated. Yesterday sounds about right. People who demand power and respect usually do so because they don't deserve it.
Posted by Old Patriot  2003-10-15 10:21:17 AM|| [http://users.codenet.net/mweather/default.htm]  2003-10-15 10:21:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 I'll have to look this up in my "Encyclopedia of Muslim Holy Places". I'm up to Volume 65 and should soon be through the ones that begin with "B"...
Posted by tu3031 2003-10-15 10:55:19 AM||   2003-10-15 10:55:19 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 .Yeap,sounds like Iraq's version of"A good ol' boy"needs to bust a cap on his ass
Posted by Raptor  2003-10-15 11:11:24 AM||   2003-10-15 11:11:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Hussein was Fatima's kid. Big wheel, big deal martyr killed at the battle of Ashura.

Hint: if you want to piss off every Shia on the planet, just go mess with that shrine.

al-Sadr's obviously insane.
Posted by mojo  2003-10-15 11:23:34 AM||   2003-10-15 11:23:34 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 insane or desperate. Word is his demonstrations are attracting smaller crowds. Evidently hes losing ground to Sistani, Hakim and the governing council (and, implicitly, to the Americans) So he gambled.
Posted by liberalhawk 2003-10-15 1:47:39 PM||   2003-10-15 1:47:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Sadr is young. Soon to be young and dead. The other religious leaders have tolerated him because he is a front for Iran, and out of respect for his family, but he's been marked for a while.

Being a Shia sucks. The sect was formed out of a military defeat, and all its holy men are martyrs and all its holidays commorate somebody's martyrdom. They've never won a war, get their butts kicked regularily, and the other 80% of Moslems in the world consider them herectical nuts.
Posted by Chuck Simmins  2003-10-15 1:54:09 PM|| [http://blog.simmins.org]  2003-10-15 1:54:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Especially sick with that Massive Head Wound Harry routine they do. Even to to kids. Picture you cutting your own little boy for the head wound bleeding. Now you get the picture. It's not cultural, it's bloody sick.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-10-15 3:29:09 PM||   2003-10-15 3:29:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 "Evidently hes losing ground to Sistani, Hakim and the governing council (and, implicitly, to the Americans) So he gambled."

Um... I may be misremembering the names but isn't Hakim the guy that was murdered with a bomb a while ago?

Anyway, from what I've read, Sadr does seem to be one of the harshest Islamofascists currently in Iraq, so let's hope you are right and he's indeed losing power...
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2003-10-15 5:20:12 PM||   2003-10-15 5:20:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 SAIRI is the Hakim family business. It'll be awhile before they run out of them.
Posted by Fred  2003-10-15 8:34:26 PM||   2003-10-15 8:34:26 PM|| Front Page Top

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