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2003-10-12 Fifth Column
Retraction: Nobel Committee Still Anti-American
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Posted by Sorge 2003-10-12 7:53:34 AM|| || Front Page|| [2 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 A pacifist getting a Peace prize! Oh, the horror!
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2003-10-12 10:08:45 AM||   2003-10-12 10:08:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 In stark contrast to a mass murderer, Arafat.
Posted by badanov  2003-10-12 10:16:07 AM|| [http://www.rkka.org/weblog]  2003-10-12 10:16:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Hey, look at the bright side. They decided that Arafat-types did not make good Dynamit Nobel Prize recipients. Things are looking up, all rightie...
Posted by Alaska Paul 2003-10-12 1:22:46 PM||   2003-10-12 1:22:46 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Katsaris;

Pacifism, the refusal to use force in self-defense, is a moral obscenity. So, indeed, 'the horror.'
Posted by Sorge  2003-10-12 1:25:12 PM|| [http://www.forgottenfronts.com/]  2003-10-12 1:25:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 Pacifism has its place. Unfortunately, its place is not in the crowd of people watching Qusay feel a citizen into the plastic shreader.
Posted by Super Hose  2003-10-12 3:59:19 PM||   2003-10-12 3:59:19 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 ...And you know, Dynamit-Nobel still makes some of the highest quality boom-stuff in the world, everything from HE to ammo that is so well made it's almost jewel-like. You gotta figure that Arafish figured, "Hey - the guy's name was on the prize, f'r cryin' out loud, why shouldn't I use it?"

Mike
Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2003-10-12 4:25:12 PM||   2003-10-12 4:25:12 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 "Katsaris; Pacifism, the refusal to use force in self-defense, is a moral obscenity."

Well for starters, there's different definitions for "pacifism", but even if we use the extreme version that you seem to be using, aka the condemnation of *all* force, even when used in self-defense...

..I'd say that even then it's not a "moral obscenity", just a philosophical attitude, atleast when it's non-hypocritical. A fundamentally flawed attitude IMO, but still.

Christianity is after also notorious for it's pacifism in the "turn other cheek" principle, or Christ's condemnation of Peter's action when he attempts to use force to defend his teacher from an unjust arrest.
Posted by Aris Katsaris  2003-10-12 6:45:47 PM||   2003-10-12 6:45:47 PM|| Front Page Top

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